StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) So this really is rather amazing. We have a foreign intelligence industry successfully intervening in a U.S. Election on behalf of one candidate with the tacit approval of that candidate and other top level officials in his party, including one whose wife is now a cabinet level nominee. At this point, the United States system does not have any way to deal with this. if someone successfully intervenes in the U.S. election using foreign resources, a faulty election still stands because there's no mechanism by which we could do anything about the intervention. It is at least partially on the media for how they covered it, exhibit a http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/1...torial-judgment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yep, the first letter about nothing hurt her support but that mostly recovered. The second one saying that there wasn't anything there rallied trump supporters and did her in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Remember when trump asked Russia to hack the Democrats and help him win? And now the Republican party is running interference fit Russian influence over the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yeah, demotivated those with Clinton Fatigue and on the fence...equally motivated Trump supporters/GOP base. That said, she gave up completely on talking about policy. She could never articulate why either free trade benefitted flyover territory or what the Democrats were going to do to actually help those middle and lower middle class blue collars who've been displaced the last 20-30 years. If you look at some recent articles, at least 25% of Dems are convinced for the moment (largely due to the "Carrier win") that Trump actually will help American workers, or at least fight for them. http://www.kxly.com/news/opinion-michigans...aradox/42740108 It has been written 100 different ways, but this "Springsteen Paradox" makes about as much sense as anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Perhaps the most amazing revelation in the Post’s report is, “Some of the Republicans in the briefing also seemed opposed to the idea of going public with such explosive allegations in the final stages of an election.” Almost immediately afterward, Republicans in Congress trumpeted explosive (but ultimately empty) allegations from a different agency. Of the many causes of the election outcome, one was simply that Trump’s supporters in government were willing to put the system at risk in order to win, and Clinton’s supporters were not. Seriously, f*** these traitors. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/...l-to-power.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 07:48 PM) Here's some more backing this up https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/8...src=twsrc%5Etfw Remember that the completely empty letter from comey was leaked to the trump campaign before it went public, with Rudy foreshadowing it on fox news a day or two before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 So, the real victor of the 2016 Election was Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/estate-tax-r...-100000422.html Estate tax, it gone. The part that really rankles is the GOP sales job. Only 3% of the examples studied in a recent year effect family farms or caused small businesses to be split up. You'd think it was closer to 50% listening to the debates over the last two decades. And this is only 2/10ths of 1% of the richest estates in America with over $5.45-10.9 million (single/couple) in assets. In 1999/2000, the bottom was around $675-725,000. Small wonder that Clinton was balancing the budget then...but also capital gains at 20% Those are next to go. Fiscal responsibility...who cares anymore, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/news/karl-rove-critic...-171151385.html Karl Rove rips Trump for Boeing comments.... Trump posted his initial tweet about Boeing just after a story featuring the company's CEO was published. In the Chicago Tribune article, CEO Dennis Muilenburg expressed concerns about Trump's trade policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Joint statement from McCain, Graham, Schumer, and Reed. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/...src=twsrc%5Etfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/10/will-amazon...&yptr=yahoo Will Amazon Go replace jobs? "I don't think we can stop it," author says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 NYT normalizing neo-Nazis for some reason. Liam Hogan @Limerick1914 Yeah, no. Neo-Nazi groups have been hiding the swastikas for half a century. pic.twitter.com/4jqhMfleAs Liam Hogan @Limerick1914 The soft focus image and caption that accompany this piece is utterly shameful. This individual is calling for a genocide. pic.twitter.com/dR6vqlXmvH 6:50 PM - 10 Dec 2016 Liam Hogan @Limerick1914 His heroes are Goebbels & Hitler. Have @nytimes ever wondered how this "white ethno-state" will be achieved? Just WTAF are you doing? Liam Hogan @Limerick1914 Action: Lead a Neo-Nazi group. Call for the extermination of Jewish people. Result: Twitter verified status. Family photo in the NY Times. pic.twitter.com/GwZkx9jqLg 7:04 PM - 10 Dec 2016 And twitter restored Richard Spencer's account, so we're giving literal neo-Nazis more and more of a platform right as a man who ran on white nationalism comes into office with a white nationalist as his chief policy adviser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/china-flies-nucle...&yptr=yahoo Can a president-elect declare war on Twitter before he's even been sworn in? Can't wait to see how Trump responds to being called a child. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/politics/chi...tion/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Not exterminate terrorists....exterminate Muslims. WTF Former U.S. Rep. Allen West, a conservative who posted a meme on Facebook on Saturday about Drumpf picking a cabinet member who will “exterminate” Muslims, is at Drumpf Tower on Monday to possibly meet with the president-elect. The post on West’s official Facebook said that Donald Drumpf wants Gen. James “Mad Dog” Mattis to serve as defense secretary because he will “exterminate Muslims.” West’s page has more than 2.5 million followers. via Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Not exterminate terrorists....exterminate Muslims. WTF via To be fair, the EIC of West's website said that the meme was posted without their knowledge. Now, who knows if you believe them, but worth noting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This morning, someone started dumping Lockheed Martin stock 6 minutes before Donald Trump tweeted negatively about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) This morning, someone started dumping Lockheed Martin stock 6 minutes before Donald Trump tweeted negatively about them. Random people on Twitter are saying that Trump made this statement on TV before he tweeted it. Not sure if that's true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) This morning, someone started dumping Lockheed Martin stock 6 minutes before Donald Trump tweeted negatively about them. what a lucky fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) This morning, someone started dumping Lockheed Martin stock 6 minutes before Donald Trump tweeted negatively about them. That's fine, we have Jason in the House for a job like this. He doesn't like conflicts of interest and backroom dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The coming Trump kleptocracy, perfectly captured in a single sentence We have no real idea what all of Trump's business connections and debt obligations are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 A guide to the billions of dollars trump and his companies owe, much of it to foreign entities. http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/...nald-trump-debt And of course trump has postponed his press conference where he was supposed to discuss how his many, many conflicts of interest would be resolved until after the electoral college meets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 http://therightscoop.com/beholden-to-no-on...-goldman-sachs/ One wonders if one of the Chinese "concessions" in theoretical future trade negotiations will be Bank of China forgiving a $650 million property loan? Is he really that brazen? If he gets it in his head he can cost companies millions or billion in market value with a 140 character tweet, god knows what else is possible when he actually is president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) Random people on Twitter are saying that Trump made this statement on TV before he tweeted it. Not sure if that's true or not. He did, but his statements were last Friday. I saw one person yesterday with an attempted debunk of this using a page with different timestamps so it might well be a timestamp issue, just not sure exactly how the timestamp on one is more trustworthy than another, but that would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 So, here's an article by the page run by the President's special advisor suggesting I should be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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