StrangeSox Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Trump's week courtesy of judd legum 1. Did Donald Trump have the worst week in political history? Let's review 2. He began the week by decisively losing the first presidential debate, which was watched by more than 80 million people 3. Legitimate polls had Trump losing the debate by 30 or 40 points 4. He then spent the week arguing that scientific polls were unreliable and touted meaningless online polls goosed by his suporters 5. During the debate Hillary Clinton brought up his fat-shaming of former Miss Universe Alicia Machado. 6. Trump spent every day after the debate talking about Machado and defending his decision to mock her for gaining weight 7. This culminated on early Friday morning when Trump tweeted to his millions of followers to Google her sex tape. (She doesn't have one.) 8. It was then revealed Trump once appeared in a softcore porn video produced by Playboy 9. Trump bragged at the end of the debate that he was too classy to bring up Bill Clinton's affairs. 10. Trump (and his campaign) then spent the rest of the week talking about Bill Clinton's affairs. 11. On Friday, Trump called the NYT to talk about Bill Clinton's affairs and (falsely) claimed that he had never had an affair. 12. During the debate, he bragged that he was able to avoid any taxes, impling that people who paid taxes weren't smart 13. Trump was also cornered during the debate on his lie that he opposed the Iraq war. He pleaded with people to call Sean Hannity. 14. USA Today and The WSJ -- 2 huge papers who almost never weigh in on prez elections came out against Trump, calling him a unique threat 15. The Arizona Republic also endorsed Hillary Clinton, the first time they've ever endorsed a Democrat 16. Trump claimed Google was involved in a conspiracy to suppress negative news on Hillary Clinton 17. Trump said Tuesday that Lester Holt did a "great job" moderating the debate. Days later he said Holt rigged the debate for Hillary. 18. Trump threatened not to participate in the next two debates 19. Newsweek revealed that Trump probably violated the Cuban embargo and his campaign manager inadvertently confirmed it on national TV 20. Trump released an ad trying to appeal to women that featuring the line: "The most important job a woman can have is being a mother" 21. Trump called for Obama not to pardon Hillary Clinton, who has not been convicted of any crime 22. The WashPost revealed that Trump's foundation lacks proper certifications to solicit money -- and was probably operating illegally 23. Trump named Merkel, who he has trashed throughout the campaign and compared to Hillary, as the foreign leader he most admires 24. Trump told a New Hampshire television outlet that he was "very proud" to promote the birther conspiracy about Obama 25. White Nationalist David Duke called Trump "our candidate" 26. Employees at Trump's golf courses said he wanted to fire women who weren't pretty enough 27. Forbes reported that Trump's net worth dropped $800 million in the last year 28. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things but, yeah, pretty bad week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 29. The nyt got ahold of some of his 1995 tax returns which showed a nearly one billion dollar loss, big enough to wipe out up to 18 years worth of federal taxes. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/po...t.co/aAXI4ZvZeZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 11:21 PM) 29. The nyt got ahold of some of his 1995 tax returns which showed a nearly one billion dollar loss, big enough to wipe out up to 18 years worth of federal taxes. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/po...t.co/aAXI4ZvZeZ Wowowowowow I can't wait for the next debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Something to keep in mind about that billion dollar loss trump had in 1995-while he may have lost that much on paper, it was almost definitely other investors, creditors, and contractors he stiffed that bore the real brunt. Trump had been taking millions out of his casinos as they hemorrhaged money for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Here it comes. An announcement Tuesday supposedly means Hillary is done as a candidate. What do you Hillary backers and apologists think of this story? Are you worried or think it's hogwash? Please be honest. Any tinges of nervousness bout this? http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/10/02/wed...l-finish-396507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Frankly I don't really care. I'm still voting for her instead of Biff Tannen. What could be so damaging to middle of the road voters that would make her be "done?" Edited October 3, 2016 by SpankyEaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 1, 2016 -> 12:29 AM) And as far as my support of Jesse, well, I don't mean to disparage the military. He was in the military as a matter of fact. But I feel like Hillary is a very bad candidate and Trump is a lol, cmon you gotta be kidding candidate. Gary Johnson doesn't make me feel great about his leading the USA so that leaves Jesse. WHy not vote for him? It's my right. Why can't an athlete kneel during the national anthem then? Is that not their right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 2, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Here it comes. An announcement Tuesday supposedly means Hillary is done as a candidate. What do you Hillary backers and apologists think of this story? Are you worried or think it's hogwash? Please be honest. Any tinges of nervousness bout this? http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/10/02/wed...l-finish-396507 Well if the Russian puppet says so, I guess I better start quaking in my boots and vote for the racist demagogue that'll advance us to World War 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 2, 2016 -> 11:03 PM) I have no idea his motivations, but he seems to also be insanely narcissistic. His hatred for Hillary makes no real sense, since Trump is also against everything he believes in. I don't think there's any rational logic or explanation to his decision making. So either that means he's just a whack job, or it means someone's controlling him. And with Putin already having hacked the DNC, literally anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 2, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) Personally never saw him as a hero. Evidence of WikiLeaks being a Russian-backed op have been repeated in this thread ad nauseam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 04:13 AM) I have no idea his motivations, but he seems to also be insanely narcissistic. His hatred for Hillary makes no real sense, since Trump is also against everything he believes in. I don't think there's any rational logic or explanation to his decision making. So either that means he's just a whack job, or it means someone's controlling him. And with Putin already having hacked the DNC, literally anything is possible. Good post, Reddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) I'm absolutely shocked that wikileaks has nothing to announce despite broad proclamations to the contrary yet again. How many more times will they pull the football away at the last second before the last holdouts realize how big of a joke they've become? Edit and what corruption of Hillary have they released, anyway? They mostly seem to make claims about things they don't understand, overhype what they have, and dox teenage tape victims and gay people in Saudi. Edited October 3, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2016 -> 06:34 PM) Limbaugh made a great point today. Wolf Blitzer would NEVER EVER have mentioned something about Bill Clinton's indiscretions but he goes after Trump on this today as a gift to Hillary. Look ... Trump needs to all out attack the Clintons now. This is ridiculous. Everybody's jumping on Trump over Alicia. It's time Trump attacks the Clinton family about all of Bill's transgressions and Hillary's alleged making life hell on those who cheated with Bill. Limbaugh had some good points today about this issue. Limbaugh especially attacked Wolf. Bill. Clinton. Is. Not. Running. For. President. We'll review this again tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Greg stop listening to talk radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Big ap article about trump's sexism during the apprentice, including more extreme creepiness about Ivanka. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2778a6ab72e...p;utm_medium=AP Seems like the oppo research floodgates are opening, and there's a huge reservoir to drain. Edited October 3, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Lmbo that's their big reveal, a claim that Clinton made a joke about droning assange. Weird how he insisted there wasn't anything worthwhile to leak about Trump given all of the Trump stuff that's been leaked ands unearthed by actual journalists in the last month. If they have something worthwhile, why wait until Tuesday to release it? Edited October 3, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 2, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Here it comes. An announcement Tuesday supposedly means Hillary is done as a candidate. What do you Hillary backers and apologists think of this story? Are you worried or think it's hogwash? Please be honest. Any tinges of nervousness bout this? http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/10/02/wed...l-finish-396507 There is nothing that is going to be said between now and November that will change the supporters of either candidates minds. All of these "surprises" will be justified by their own support bases. It literally doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hillary is probably just waiting for Trump to bring up Bill's discretion's because she has a simple retort. Also, everyone already know what Willy did. It wouldn't be groundbreaking news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) There is nothing that is going to be said between now and November that will change the supporters of either candidates minds. All of these "surprises" will be justified by their own support bases. It literally doesn't matter. Lots of things can still influence soft support and how enthusiastic people are to actually make the effort to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) Lots of things can still influence soft support and how enthusiastic people are to actually make the effort to vote. There isn't really "soft support" or "enthusiasm" outside of the supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 That's quite the inflation of assanges influence, but unless Clinton was pulling a beckett moment with that statement then it's just an (unsourced) joke. Why make such a big deal about the announcement and "assassination fears" and put off actually releasing the Clinton destroying info, unless it's really just another overhyped nothing like several past announcements from assange eg his release during Clinton's dnc speech that was going to blow up her campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) There isn't really "soft support" or "enthusiasm" outside of the supporters. That's not what any of the polling says though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) The Secretary of State talks about dronebombing one of the individual world power's biggest oppositions...not a big deal. Journalists unveiling a sexist buffoons comments when that person is already sexist on TV regularly...real journalism. EDIT: former SOS If this is the "big reveal" do you really believe that Clinton was being serious? Calling him one of the US's "biggest oppositions" is really giving him a lot of credit. He is a self motivated hacker who tries to cloak himself as some sort of altruistic outsider. I mean you really dont see this for the dog and pony show that it is? The guy has a tv show on Russia today, which is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin. Furthermore, the guy is in in London and cancelled his "reveal" because of security concerns. Ironic that Russia, his current employer, may have assassinated a dissident in London see Alexander Litvinenko. But totally trustworthy group of guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Are you aware that rt is a state sponsored propaganda wing of the Russian government? That's not the same as "not having mainstream acceptance." Hell, going to crazy town InfoWars would be less suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 That argument has never bitten anyone in the ass really,really hard, right? But the answer to the question you asked soxbadger is readily apparent. Russia is his employer because he works for Russian state TV, and he routinely excuses or denies Russia's wrong doing. Wikileaks has definitely exposed some things both good and bad, but they've repeatedly undermined their own credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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