caulfield12 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Greg, you keep saying you want "young blood/charisma/dynamic/energetic." McCain and Biden, REALLY????? We all know how this works. We don't have to watch MONEY MONSTER. Trump is insulated at the top...his surrogates will be the ones to take the fall. Surely when you have fashion designers and artists teaching $35,000 courses about flipping houses, you're going to have fraud at some level and a settlement. I actually think all the beatings that Hillary has taken from the Conservative Right since the 1992 election cycle through today has made her less egotistical (Bill has always taken up all the air in the space he occupies) but it's definitely made her a warrior...a survivor...someone who is at times a bit bitter and comes across as caustic and especially impatient with the younger generation. I wouldn't say it's as much about ego though as just the general polarization of the electorate over the last 20-30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 10:41 PM) The media should put all its resources into this story as well as the Hillary email story. Pursue both aggressively and see if both candidates get exposed for being frauds. It's simply hard to believe these are the candidates of the 2 major parties. You have an egomaniac elitist madman in Drumpf vs. an egomatic elitist madwoman in Hillary. Both are embarrassments to the country. Meanwhile, Bernie is considered a nut for some reason and all those other Republican candidates were severely flawed as well. I think Biden should have run vs. McCain. Two good candidates. What in all hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 10:41 PM) The media should put all its resources into this story as well as the Hillary email story. Pursue both aggressively and see if both candidates get exposed for being frauds. It's simply hard to believe these are the candidates of the 2 major parties. You have an egomaniac elitist madman in Drumpf vs. an egomatic elitist madwoman in Hillary. Both are embarrassments to the country. Meanwhile, Bernie is considered a nut for some reason and all those other Republican candidates were severely flawed as well. I think Biden should have run vs. McCain. Two good candidates. What in all hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 So let's do it. McCain/Dole vs. Wellstone/Tsongas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 04:26 AM) What in all hell? What is wrong with Biden? What is wrong with McCain. There's a helluva lot wrong with Donald and Hillary. And the country thinks Bernie is from another planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 If Bernie is from another planet, why does he often poll better head-to-head against Trump than Ms. Clinton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Bernie is not a democrat greg and he's running for the democratic nomination. Why are you having a hard time understanding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 03:39 AM) If Bernie is from another planet, why does he often poll better head-to-head against Trump than Ms. Clinton? Less well known, same reason guys like Kasich will poll really well before widespread exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 07:49 AM) Less well known, same reason guys like Kasich will poll really well before widespread exposure. Also Clinton supporters say they'd vote for Bernie but that is not happening vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Really enjoyed this latest post from Conor Sen's blog. It's going to be interesting times ahead: http://csen.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I didn't or would never vote for McCain but I respected him. He seemed like a good family guy, etc. But his endorsing of Trump blows my mind after the things Trump said about him. I saw his ads in Arizona for the last two months put out lies with no facts. He is not a good candidate. He's older than Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be Vice President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be Vice President. Underrated fact. Also, Romney didn't run as a moderate. Also underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) Haha, isn't the media so stupid? Haha, Donald giving it to em again, telling em something and then telling em another and he's really sticking it to em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 08:33 AM) Also Clinton supporters say they'd vote for Bernie but that is not happening vice versa. Dude, you know damn well that's false. BS supporters will vote for her when push comes to shove. Anything this early is simply protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 11:57 AM) Dude, you know damn well that's false. BS supporters will vote for her when push comes to shove. Anything this early is simply protest. I'm just explaining the polls showing bernie's better tracking v. trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Meh, I'm resigned to fact that if we (USA) elect Trump, which is mostly for spite, we'll get what we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 It feels like the most focal Bernie and Don supporters are new voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) this piece on Europes immigration crisis is excellent. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/...ave-itself.html Edited June 2, 2016 by bmags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) It feels like the most focal Bernie and Don supporters are new voters. Based on current votes this is untrue - exit polls show that only a small slice (25%) typically vote Republican in general elections but many of them have previously sat out the Republican Primaries. I don't have similar numbers for Sanders (wouldn't be surprised if it skewed higher based on first-time voters, but that's only a guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I don't think being a racist piece of garbage creates an actual "conflict of interest" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 http://wgntv.com/2016/06/02/illinois-budge...ame-each-other/ I can't even begin to imagine the impact of not opening CPS this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Someone remind me how Rauner got elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 05:30 AM) I don't think being a racist piece of garbage creates an actual "conflict of interest" I can't believe people can read comments like this and believe he would be an effective president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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