2016 Democratic Thread

[StrangeSox]

But we have it on good authority that he's the least racist person ever! Just check for Trump's personal assurance, it came shortly after him attacking Sen. Warren as "Pocahontas" for several minutes with his crowd doing "Indian war cries"

[Balta1701]

But we have it on good authority that he's the least racist person ever! Just check for Trump's personal assurance, it came shortly after him attacking Sen. Warren as "Pocahontas" for several minutes with his crowd doing "Indian war cries"

Apparently they have trouble keeping those in stock. There's clearly more than one design/printer running them - different color scheme.

[Jake]

Hard to take the polls too seriously with such a high number of don't know responses. You don't expect the undecideds to break 50/50 in general, but it can be hard to know who exactly they are at least without more supporting information

[Cknolls]

You're seeing that in some places. Mitt Romney clearly isn't going to vote for Trump. Mark Kirk doesn't support him, either.

 

 

And Kirk is dead man walking as far as I am concerned. Leaving Senator blank when I vote.

[greg775]

http://www.kake.com/story/32193712/poll-ka...-many-undecided

 

Clinton leads 43-36 in Kansas according to this poll. Now, I'll be shocked if it turns blue, but it's still amazing you could find any sample of Kansas to break that way.

That poll group has outed itself as being unreliable, then. This godforsaken state will NEVER again vote Democrat. These rubes re-elected Brownback!!! EVERYBODY hates Brownback, even the people who voted for him just cause he has R next to his name on the ballot. He'd win re-election tomorrow if he ran because these rubes can't vote for anybody but a Republican. There's no way this state will vote for Hillary. She'd be a fool to waste one moment campaigning anywhere near here.

Not jumping on the messenger. It is interesting poll, but that poll is FLAWED obviously.

 

p.s. During the governor election, one big newspaper out here had an editorial where the owner backed Brownback. I kid you not. The reasoning in the article backing Brownback was something like this, I paraphrase: "He didn't mean to do a poor job the first time around. Surely he'll do better for the people of Kansas during his next term." How do these people who punch R or D live with themselves?

I told you, I'm an R but I voted for Obama. I get the feeling some of you will vote for Hillary only because of that D by her name. If so that is shameful. Hillary and Trump both suck equally. Vote for somebody else for gawdsakes people!

Edited June 12, 2016 by greg775

[Balta1701]

That poll group has outed itself as being unreliable, then. This godforsaken state will NEVER again vote Democrat. These rubes re-elected Brownback!!! EVERYBODY hates Brownback, even the people who voted for him just cause he has R next to his name on the ballot. He'd win re-election tomorrow if he ran because these rubes can't vote for anybody but a Republican. There's no way this state will vote for Hillary. She'd be a fool to waste one moment campaigning anywhere near here.

Not jumping on the messenger. It is interesting poll, but that poll is FLAWED obviously.

 

p.s. During the governor election, one big newspaper out here had an editorial where the owner backed Brownback. I kid you not. The reasoning in the article backing Brownback was something like this, I paraphrase: "He didn't mean to do a poor job the first time around. Surely he'll do better for the people of Kansas during his next term." How do these people who punch R or D live with themselves?

I told you, I'm an R but I voted for Obama. I get the feeling some of you will vote for Hillary only because of that D by her name. If so that is shameful. Hillary and Trump both suck equally. Vote for somebody else for gawdsakes people!

[StrangeSox]

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

What has happened in Orlando is just the beginning. Our leadership is weak and ineffective. I called it and asked for the ban. Must be tough

3:47 PM - 12 Jun 2016

6,717 6,717 Retweets 16,460 16,460 likes

 

The shooter was born in America.

[StrangeSox]

The rest of Trump's responses have been predictably disgusting as well. Patting himself on the back with "appreciate the congrats," calling for Obama to resign because he didn't say some magic phrase, now implying that Obama has terrorist sympathies with "maybe he doesn't want to get it." Can't wait for the renewed calls on banning an entire religion from this country today.

[greg775]

Q-What do you think the odds are of Hillary getting indicted on charges concerning her emails? I'd say 40-60.

[StrangeSox]

How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions

 

His audacious personality and opulent properties brought attention — and countless players — to Atlantic City as it sought to overtake Las Vegas as the country’s gambling capital. But a close examination of regulatory reviews, court records and security filings by The New York Times leaves little doubt that Mr. Trump’s casino business was a protracted failure. Though he now says his casinos were overtaken by the same tidal wave that eventually slammed this seaside city’s gambling industry, in reality he was failing in Atlantic City long before Atlantic City itself was failing.

 

But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.

 

His casino companies made four trips to bankruptcy court, each time persuading bondholders to accept less money rather than be wiped out. But the companies repeatedly added more expensive debt and returned to the court for protection from lenders.

 

After narrowly escaping financial ruin in the early 1990s by delaying payments on his debts, Mr. Trump avoided a second potential crisis by taking his casinos public and shifting the risk to stockholders.

 

And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion.

 

All the while, Mr. Trump received copious amounts for himself, with the help of a compliant board. In one instance, The Times found, Mr. Trump pulled more than $1 million from his failing public company, describing the transaction in securities filings in ways that may have been illegal, according to legal experts.

 

[Quin]

Q-What do you think the odds are of Hillary getting indicted on charges concerning her emails? I'd say 40-60.

 

5%

[bmags]

I'd put it at 0.

[Jenksismyhero]

 

I get Greg is the king troll of all trolls, but should an admn really be telling a poster to, effectively, stop being a member of the board? Kinda bush league, dude.

 

Aren't there rules about personal attacks?

Edited June 13, 2016 by JenksIsMyHero

[StrangeSox]

The rest of Trump's responses have been predictably disgusting as well. Patting himself on the back with "appreciate the congrats," calling for Obama to resign because he didn't say some magic phrase, now implying that Obama has terrorist sympathies with "maybe he doesn't want to get it." Can't wait for the renewed calls on banning an entire religion from this country today.

 

Trump's speech today was just pure strain anti-Muslim demagoguery, once again calling for a ban on all Muslims coming into the country.

Edited June 13, 2016 by StrangeSox

[southsider2k5]

Q-What do you think the odds are of Hillary getting indicted on charges concerning her emails? I'd say 40-60.

 

0 and that is being optimistic.

[pettie4sox]

I get Greg is the king troll of all trolls, but should an admn really be telling a poster to, effectively, stop being a member of the board? Kinda bush league, dude.

 

Aren't their rules about personal attacks?

 

To defeat a troll you must become a troll.

 

Seriously though, if that's a personal attack, people have some serious thin skin.

[greg775]

I get Greg is the king troll of all trolls, but should an admn really be telling a poster to, effectively, stop being a member of the board? Kinda bush league, dude.

 

Aren't there rules about personal attacks?

Thank you for your support! You are da man! That said, I don't want anybody banned even though I have been suspended twice.

[Heads22]

It still bothers me that I live in a country where a guy like Trump is a top 2 choice for president.

[greg775]

It still bothers me that I live in a country where a guy like Trump is a top 2 choice for president.

It bothers me that Trump is one of the top two and the other is a person who in my opinion should be in jail for putting our country's security at risk. Both are horrific candidates, equally bad IMO.

[StrangeSox]

Trump adds the Washington post to his blacklist, revoking their press credentials for his campaign. They join a growing list of media organizations banned by trump for accurately reporting on his statements and history.

 

Here's the Trump quote that kicked this off:

 

“He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands—it’s one or the other and either one is unacceptable,” Trump said on Fox News. He had already called in a statement Sunday for Obama to resign from office. Trump added on Monday:

 

Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind. And the something else in mind—you know, people can’t believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can’t even mention the words “radical Islamic terrorism.” There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on.

 

Yep, definitely no insinuations about the loyalty of the President there!

Edited June 14, 2016 by StrangeSox

[Brian]

Trump adds the Washington post to his blacklist, revoking their press credentials for his campaign. They join a growing list of media organizations banned by trump for accurately reporting on his statements and history.

 

Freedom of the Press!

[StrangeSox]

Freedom of the Press!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politic...-list/85842316/

The Washington Post is not the first outlet to be banned by the Trump campaign; others include Politico, BuzzFeed, The Huffington Post, The Daily Beast, The Des Moines Register, the Union Leader, Univision and Fusion.

 

Don't forget that he wants to "open up" libel laws to make it easier to sue people who say things about him he doesn't like!

[pettie4sox]

He can ban them from his campaign festivities but he can't do that if he becomes president.

 

What a bozo.

[StrangeSox]

He can ban them from his campaign festivities but he can't do that if he becomes president.

 

What a bozo.

 

He can play games with White House press credentials, but ultimately it won't really impact anything. The WaPo reporting that's caused him to throw another tantrum doesn't require being at campaign events in person.

 

Trump's campaign has also given credentials to InfoWars, Alex Jones's far-right bats*** insane conspiracy theory website. Lots in common with Trump's "some people say" and "something's going on" conspiracy rhetoric, and of course Trump's whole political rise started with him being the nation's premier Birther (which he still hasn't dropped).

[StrangeSox]

Two new studies find racial anxiety is the biggest driver of support for Trump

 

Moving from the least to the most resentful view of African Americans increases support for Trump by 44 points, those who think Obama is a Muslim (54 percent of all Republicans) are 24 points more favorable to Trump, and those who think the word “violent” describes Muslims extremely well are about 13 points more pro-Trump than those who think it doesn’t describe them well at all.

 

…

 

Like Klinkner, my colleagues Max Ehrenfreund and Scott Clement found that Trump received a plurality of support — 43 percent — from respondents who expressed racial resentment. But they also found that economic anxiety played a significant role: 40 percent of respondents who said they were struggling gave their support to Trump, far more than any other candidate.

 

“Those who voiced concerns about white status appeared to be even more likely to support Trump than those who said they were struggling economically,” Clement and Ehrenfreund wrote, “but the results did not clearly show which concern was more important among Trump’s coalition.

 

…

 

The biggest predictor of Trump support among Republican and Republican-leaning voters was a belief that “the growing number of newcomers from other countries threatens U.S. values.” Republicans holding this belief felt 18 points more positively toward Trump, on a 100-point scale, than Republicans who didn’t feel this way.

 

Belief that Islam encourages violence, and that it’s “bad” for the country that blacks, Latinos and Asians will someday make up the majority of the population, accounted for eight-point jumps in positive feelings toward Trump.