Jerksticks Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 07:46 AM) You're assigning willful intent to actions that are merely automatic reflex (nociception). An 18-week fetus does not have the necessary level of brain development to be conscious, and lives in a state of sedation and anesthesia. Makes you a little sick reading about that though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) The reality is that Fox needs Trump more than Trump needs Fox - he's done fine in polling even with the obvious attempts to prop up Rubio/Cruz and bash him. I think it's Fox making the bad move here - nobody goes to games to watch the umpires. That's what I was thinking. I know you can't abandon one of your star reporters, but they could really lay it to Trump had they agreed to not use Kelly as a moderator but decided to call it "The Meghan Kelly/Fox debate" or something like that. I mean who the heck is going to watch now? We will not get these type of stories, but I'd love to read stories about how worthless this debate is w/out Trump. I mean they've had a batch of debates already; who would watch this bore-fest w/out crazy Donald Trump?? Edited January 27, 2016 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think it is symbiotic between trump and the media. He hasn't had to spend hardly anything so far due to all the FREE media coverage he gets. If he isn't in the media for a few days, make some new outrageous claim and get back in the cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 07:46 AM) You're assigning willful intent to actions that are merely automatic reflex (nociception). An 18-week fetus does not have the necessary level of brain development to be conscious, and lives in a state of sedation and anesthesia. Exactly. Reminds me of the picture of the doctor's finger being gripped by a tiny hand that was all the rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 So Trump did it. I didn't see the debate other than a few clips sprawled around the internet. Did anyone without Trump take charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 04:37 PM) So Trump did it. I didn't see the debate other than a few clips sprawled around the internet. Did anyone without Trump take charge? Not really. Secondary frontrunners Cruz and Rubio both got beat up by the other candidates and the Fox mediators. Paul and Bush were solid. Christie, Kasich, and Carson were the same they've been in every debate ("fk terrorists 9/11 dems suck", "pleeeeeeeeeease look at my resume I have experience", "zzzzzzz"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Please somehow let Bush get back in this thing. Let cruz and trump fade. Please...pretty please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 His name is just doing too much damage. I wish it would do similar damage to Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 06:30 PM) His name is just doing too much damage. I wish it would do similar damage to Clinton. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...-2016-campaign/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...-2016-campaign/ Any article that says 44% of Americans have a POSITIVE view of Hillary is just wrong from the get go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Any article that says 44% of Americans have a POSITIVE view of Hillary is just wrong from the get go. She's got an 80%+ favorable rating on dems. Assume a 50/50 split of dems/republican. 80% x 50%= 40% Math don't lie. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 12:44 AM) She's got an 80%+ favorable rating on dems. Assume a 50/50 split of dems/republican. 80% x 50%= 40% Math don't lie. ? Even Hillary loves have to admit this is pretty funny. We enter the first caucus with Hillary totally getting positive press. The NY Times editorial. The puff piece on how everyone loves Bill Clinton surfacing today. The media is so predictable. Right after the caucus for a few days there will be negative stories on the email or something else, then as we creep close to New Hampshire ... boom there will be more positive fluff on Hillary. I have no idea why the media want Democratic presidents so badly, but they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 12:44 AM) She's got an 80%+ favorable rating on dems. Assume a 50/50 split of dems/republican. 80% x 50%= 40% Math don't lie. ? If 80 percent of Dems love her, why were we getting stories recently that Hillary and Bernie were neck and neck in Iowa? I get the feeling it's going to be a Hillary runaway and Bernie will be close to dropping out after NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Sanders very clearly will win NH. It will be explained away because of the proximity to his home state and favorable demographics. South Carolina and Nevada are another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016...terrifying.html Are there any Republicans who disagree with her assessment as it has become increasingly likely Trump's going to sweep Iowa, NH and South Carolina? Trump's ground game is actually a lot better than he's being given credit for... http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/20...ps-secret-army/ Edited February 1, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 06:52 AM) If 80 percent of Dems love her, why were we getting stories recently that Hillary and Bernie were neck and neck in Iowa? I get the feeling it's going to be a Hillary runaway and Bernie will be close to dropping out after NH. because they love him too and can only choose one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-l..._opinions_pop_b How the Dems theoretically attack Trump in the general, and whether it would actually work or not...of course, not taking into consideration a potential Bloomberg run throwing things into more chaos. Edited February 1, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-l..._opinions_pop_b How the Dems theoretically attack Trump in the general, and whether it would actually work or not...of course, not taking into consideration a potential Bloomberg run throwing things into more chaos. You don't attack Trump. You just feed the beast. Set him up to sound like a jackass, which he will do for you. That will continue to fire up the base, but equally repel anyone not in that deep base, thus ensuring a Dem victory. I still don't believe Trump wins the nomination anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-l..._opinions_pop_b How the Dems theoretically attack Trump in the general, and whether it would actually work or not...of course, not taking into consideration a potential Bloomberg run throwing things into more chaos. I'm pretty confident that Bloomberg only runs if Bernie beats Hillary. I don't see Bloomberg taking on Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) You don't attack Trump. You just feed the beast. Set him up to sound like a jackass, which he will do for you. That will continue to fire up the base, but equally repel anyone not in that deep base, thus ensuring a Dem victory. I still don't believe Trump wins the nomination anyway. If he wins Iowa, I see him taking the nomination. If he doesn't, than sure, something interesting could happen. Even than, I feel like it is Cruz. The non Cruz / Trump republicans need to figure out which one is going to stay in the race and the rest absolutely need to disappear and fast (presumably the first to win a state's primary of the non Cruz / Trump group will be the one who "stays" in the race). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hillary is winning this thing and it will not even be close. I want to vote Republican and think I would like Christie or Bush but if you told me either dropped out two weeks ago I would not be surprised. Remember when Carley was in the conversation and then Carson. Sanders will win Iowa and NH and then will not be heard from again. The Republican party is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-po...-caucuses-work/ Educational piece on what a caucus is and how it works (in relation to Iowa). Some opinion in there as well, but thought some people might find it useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-po...-caucuses-work/ Educational piece on what a caucus is and how it works (in relation to Iowa). Some opinion in there as well, but thought some people might find it useful. Democratic Caucus = actually a caucus Republican Caucus = a primary where you have to vote at a specific time rather than within the usual 12 hour window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I bet Mike O'Malley 3 fans are excited for the caucus. COURT US, HILLARY AND BERNIE FANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Just want to point out that the winner of Iowa, pretty often across parties doesn't win the nomination. Happens plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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