2016 Republican Thread

[greg775]

The Republican primary electorate isn't the general election electorate.

I remember him being ahead of Hillary at one point in some polls. Seriously, folks, this is worth discussing. Trump is a nontraditional (egomaniac) candidate. The convention is not going to be some happy happy "Donald is the greatest" thing. The media is going to push hard to find delegates on the floor who despise Trump. There probably will be some boos in his acceptance speech. It has the potential to get really ugly.

Then he has to witness all that pure love for Hillary in her convention all the media fawning and ignoring of the Bernie thing. The speeches will make Hillary out to be the Mother Theresa of politics. Trump will have to listen to all that.

Then the campaigning til November ... the devil Donald Trump vs. The Saint Hillary Clinton. His head is going to explode with him not being popular anymore.

 

I am looking for something strange to happen, Donald dropping out before much of my scenario takes place. It's called "the zillionaire saving face." Never underestimate what an egomaniac multi millionaire can/will do to remain loved/popular. In his case dropping out. Bernie never saved face. Despite a helluva campaign and great results he was painted as a wacko nut and his MANY primary victories were simply ignored.

Edited June 21, 2016 by greg775

[Buehrle>Wood]

These Clinton Foundation leaks are amazingly entertaining.

[Y2Jimmy0]

For sure. But it's hard to ignore the fact that the people who take public jobs get to vote. They never had to put their balls out there so to speak. So I feel like if one chooses the easy way out, one's opinion should be of gratitude and thanks to the people who sweat in the jungle every day and get things done for their salary. They shouldn't be self-righteous & condescending to the free-market men & women.

 

The professors and hipsters love to rap on pollution, the environment, green energy, rag on oil etc. All that stuff is nice in utopialand but it's not realistic; everything is oil. While they ride their bicycle to work, they're forgetting that most of their bike components are made from oil, their clothes are made from oil, their toothbrush @ toothpaste oil, all the packaging from amazon prime is oil, everything in those boxes is oil, all the goods at their local amazon warehouse arrived in big greasy, oil-made-and-fueled trucks which drove on oil-made roads. Oil is the reason their clothes have color & why they can drink starbucks & finger their oil-based laptops. Oil is the only reason IKEA exists. Oil is the reason we all get cancers and need big pharma & high-paid doctors.

 

I'm all for solutions but we aren't close as a society, so until then, shut up about your bicycle & public-dime job like you're making more of a difference.

 

 

Are you referring to like college professors or teachers? I teach Special Ed Reading and I guarantee you wouldn't do my job so I'm hoping that your "taking the easy way out" comments aren't referring to someone like me.

[greg775]

Trump called Hillary perhaps the most corrupt candidate ever. He just blasted her personality as well. The gloves are off.

[EvilMonkey]

Trump called Hillary perhaps the most corrupt candidate ever. He just blasted her personality as well. The gloves are off.

Do you find that to be factually untrue? he is probably correct.

[Jenksismyhero]

So, House Democrats stage a sit in. Are they in 3rd grade?

 

Oh, and they're obstructionists right? Liberals out there must hate that, right?

[pettie4sox]

Trump called Hillary perhaps the most corrupt candidate ever. He just blasted her personality as well. The gloves are off.

 

The gloves have been off for months. Trump started without the gloves when he shredded through Republican primaries.

 

I hope Trump continues with his shenanigans, it'll make for good TV come the debates.

[pettie4sox]

So, House Democrats stage a sit in. Are they in 3rd grade?

 

Oh, and they're obstructionists right? Liberals out there must hate that, right?

 

It's politics they don't really care for change, just empty gestures to make it seems like they actually give a f***.

[Jenksismyhero]

SCOTUS upholds discriminatory practice of Univ of Texas admissions. Race is ok to consider as a factor. Love the double standard of affirmative action.

[Texsox]

SCOTUS upholds discriminatory practice of Univ of Texas admissions. Race is ok to consider as a factor. Love the double standard of affirmative action.

 

UT is in a tough situation. The Top 10% rule (any Texas student who graduates in the top 10% if their class can pick any Texas public university for guaranteed admission) really stifles any attempt at diversifying their classes.

 

http://www.texasmonthly.com/burka-blog/the...-rule-on-trial/

[Jenksismyhero]

UT is in a tough situation. The Top 10% rule (any Texas student who graduates in the top 10% if their class can pick any Texas public university for guaranteed admission) really stifles any attempt at diversifying their classes.

 

http://www.texasmonthly.com/burka-blog/the...-rule-on-trial/

 

Be that as it may, it's ridiculous that we continue to have a policy of "race cannot be a basis for making decisions ... unless you're white and then it's fine!" SCOTUS just keeps eroding the protections of the Constitution every time it makes exceptions to a pretty clear rule - no discrimination based on race and equal rights under the law.

 

Justifying discrimination by saying diversity is a goal is just nonsense.

Edited June 24, 2016 by JenksIsMyHero

[Texsox]

Be that as it may, it's ridiculous that we continue to have a policy of "race cannot be a basis for making decisions ... unless you're white and then it's fine!" SCOTUS just keeps eroding the protections of the Constitution every time it makes exceptions to a pretty clear rule - no discrimination based on race and equal rights under the law.

 

Justifying discrimination by saying diversity is a goal is just nonsense.

 

I agree. It's just a little odd in college admissions. Having a diverse, world wide representation of students creates a rich and powerful learning environment. As you know most of what you learn in college is from your fellow students. Mixing prior knowledge from around the world, not just from Texas public schools, improves the university.

 

It is also ironic that the woman who first brought the suit would not have been admitted if she were a minority. She didn't qualify academically.

 

I have real mixed feelings on this. I agree that using race in most instances is wrong. About the only area I see a basis is education where it does improve the overall product. It's almost like hiring actors for a production. You know what you want the end product to look like and you hire the actors that make the production best.

[pettie4sox]

I don't know much about the story but is the gist a white girl, with bad grades, sued UT because they denied her admission?

[Texsox]

I don't know much about the story but is the gist a white girl, with bad grades, sued UT because they denied her admission?

 

As simple and complex as that. (The poor thing had to go to LSU). She was just outside the top 10% of her class so she didn't receive automatic admissions. Then her test scores were sub par. There is also debate within Texas with the 10% rule. Top 10% at a weaker high school compared to top 10% at a rigorous top magnet/private high school is a big difference.

[bmags]

So, House Democrats stage a sit in. Are they in 3rd grade?

 

Oh, and they're obstructionists right? Liberals out there must hate that, right?

 

Can't say I'm shedding a tear at "obstructing" vacation time. That's not really preventing the country from paying its debts. It's trying to get a bill to the floor.

 

But, yeah, both sides.

[ptatc]

Teaching hasn't been a "sacrifice" for at least 20 years.

 

It's the most protected and "investement lucractive" job in the US. I would personally like to see teachers get paid six figures and pay their own way...like I do.

 

In the real world, you can only put $16.5K a year OF YOUR OWN pre-tax $ AWAY per year, to a retirement plan. That's not even talking about HEALTH.

 

In the democrat world, you become a teacher or union employee of a state, put in 20-25 years, and retire with your best scale for life and medical while dips***s like me pay for it.

 

Then, wonder why all these teachers/cops/firemen are socially malformed and drunken f***ups all the time at the age of 55.

 

It's not from their jobs. It's because they never learned how to be an adult.

These statements apply to all of these people in all situations?

 

You have lost all credibility.

[StrangeSox]

It's interesting calling a sit in lead by a civil rights legend childish

[ptatc]

I agree. It's just a little odd in college admissions. Having a diverse, world wide representation of students creates a rich and powerful learning environment. As you know most of what you learn in college is from your fellow students. Mixing prior knowledge from around the world, not just from Texas public schools, improves the university.

 

It is also ironic that the woman who first brought the suit would not have been admitted if she were a minority. She didn't qualify academically.

 

I have real mixed feelings on this. I agree that using race in most instances is wrong. About the only area I see a basis is education where it does improve the overall product. It's almost like hiring actors for a production. You know what you want the end product to look like and you hire the actors that make the production best.

The bigger issue is more socioeconomic factors. Inner city public schools tend to have a more difficult time getting students ready for college. These schools also tend to have more minorities. So part of the reason for the "discrimination" is to diversify the education, to strengthen it but also to give those who had a disadvantage in high school more of a chance.

 

It is really one with mixed feelings all around.

[EvilMonkey]

It's interesting calling a sit in lead by a civil rights legend childish

it was childish. It doesn't matter who was doing it. Some sit it. They even had it catered. No sacrifices like in the old days.

[Cknolls]

it was childish. It doesn't matter who was doing it. Some sit it. They even had it catered. No sacrifices like in the old days.

 

 

By that evil company Chik Fil A

[StrangeSox]

It was essentially the House version of a filibuster. It's definitely for publicity, but it didn't hold up any legitimate business or post a threat to anything, and Republicans have used a similar tactic before.

[EvilMonkey]

It was essentially the House version of a filibuster. It's definitely for publicity, but it didn't hold up any legitimate business or post a threat to anything, and Republicans have used a similar tactic before.

yeah, I don't recall Newt sitting on the floor looking pained to be there, chanting slogans and getting lunch. They broke rules, probably hoping for Ryan to have them removed by security so they can make it a race thing. let me say that part again, THEY BROKE THE RULES when they didn't get their way, acting like children. Par for the course for liberals.

[StrangeSox]

I don't care if they "BROKE THE RULES!!" of procedure in the House, pretty lol that anyone really would. In 2008, Republicans did something similar for even longer, running their own version of the House AGAINST THE RULES! (gasp!) in order to press for a vote on issues they wanted.

 

Using what power/tactics you can when you're the minority party to draw attention to your causes isn't acting childish any more than early 1900's labor sit-ins and 60's civil rights sit-ins were childish. John Lewis "BROKE THE RULES!" when he participated in those, too.

Edited June 28, 2016 by StrangeSox

[EvilMonkey]

I don't care if they "BROKE THE RULES!!" of procedure in the House, pretty lol that anyone really would. In 2008, Republicans did something similar for even longer, running their own version of the House AGAINST THE RULES! (gasp!) in order to press for a vote on issues they wanted.

 

Using what power/tactics you can when you're the minority party to draw attention to your causes isn't acting childish any more than early 1900's labor sit-ins and 60's civil rights sit-ins were childish. John Lewis "BROKE THE RULES!" when he participated in those, too.

Did the media applaud the R's then? Did you think it was a good thing that the minority party did whatever they could, or did you make snide comments about how childish they looked? Goes both ways. It was still childish and Mr. Lewis looked like he would rather be anywhere else than sitting on the floor, and the fact that he as one of the participants doesn't make it any less childish.

[Quin]

Did the media applaud the R's then? Did you think it was a good thing that the minority party did whatever they could, or did you make snide comments about how childish they looked? Goes both ways. It was still childish and Mr. Lewis looked like he would rather be anywhere else than sitting on the floor, and the fact that he as one of the participants doesn't make it any less childish.

 

I mean Fox probably did.