2016 Republican Thread

[DrunkBomber]

I almost forgot some Clinton Foundation fun.

 

More Clinton Shenanigans in Haiti

Emails show the State Department and the Clinton Foundation collaborated on policy.

 

 

So Clinton Foundation staff was hobnobbing with a powerful Haitian politician and using connections at the State Department to try to influence U.S. policy decisions involving that same politician. That’s unethical and it is also contrary to what Mrs. Clinton promised when she went before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January 2009 as president-elect Barack Obama’s secretary of state nominee.

 

Back then she boasted that the foundation and the incoming administration “decided to go beyond what the law and the ethics rules call for to address even the appearance of conflict” of interest with a “memorandum of understanding” to “address potential concerns” and ensure transparency.

 

Now a string of State Department emails from January 2011—made public through a Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, request by Citizens United—demonstrates that Mrs. Clinton’s State Department did not separate itself from the Clinton Foundation but instead collaborated with it.

[DrunkBomber]

Im curious where is everyone who mocks me anytime I criticize Clinton or Obama? No response to any of this stuff?

[DrunkBomber]

From 538

[StrangeSox]

Im curious where is everyone who mocks me anytime I criticize Clinton or Obama? No response to any of this stuff?

 

It's the Republican thread. You should feel free to post all of the pro-Republican/anti-Democratic things you want.

[StrangeSox]

Well a lot of this stuff belongs in the Democratic thread...

 

The original intent of these partisan threads was for Democrats to post with Democrats about good Democrat/bad Republican stuff and vice-versa, not as catch-all threads to dump everything about Democrats good or bad into (and, again, vice versa).

 

edit: original threads were even titled "For Dems Only" and "For Reps Only"

Edited September 19, 2016 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

From 538

 

I like the NYT's "The Upshot" summary page. About half way down the page, they give a summary of how all the aggregators currently stand both nationally and for each state.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/up...s-forecast.html

 

 

[pettie4sox]

Outside of a few posters, I think most of us believe Hillary is a garbage candidate. It's shameful that in 2016 neither party could have produced a halfway decent candidate to run for president. I think it's time to lower the f***ing age.

Edited September 19, 2016 by pettie4sox

[pettie4sox]

The majority of the posts in Filibusters come from Hillary supporters. There is next to no one outwardly supporting Trump here.

 

I think people are anti-Trump more than pro-Hillary. The lesser of two evils argument.

 

B/W is an active Trump supporter unless he changed his tune.

[DrunkBomber]

Well there is plenty of proof to back up the things Ive been saying for months. We have the worst and most corrupt candidates of all time trying to run on the policies of one of the worst president in recent history. When I first posted the DNC leaks everyone thought it was a real joke and claimed "politics as usual." Now we see that one of the dozens of people Obama sold jobs too is not only purposely distorting facts to influence the Presidential election. Hes also so ill equipped for the job that the DHS accidentally granted citizenship to over 800 immigrants with forged paper work.

 

Meanwhile our President is helping pay for Mexico to build a southern border wall FOR MEXICO all while calling Trump racist for wanting one on our border.

 

We have the main stream media manipulating content to help Hillary in the election, including a total media black out about the DNC leaks.

 

Yesterday our military ACCIDENTALLY bombed the Syrian Army who is fighting AGAINST Isis, which also is causing huge issues with Russia.

 

We have our own state department telling us that the some of the 33 billion dollars we are giving to Iran will be used to fund terrorism and is also making Iran more hostile towards us.

 

If anyone wants pretty irrefutable proof that even if Hillary won she would be impeached very quickly watch the 12 minute video of Jason Chaffetz grilling the FBI that I posted. There is proof of multiple crimes that absolutely cannot be denied and the House Oversight Committee has no intentions of letting it go.

 

We still have whatever wikileaks is gonna release as well.

 

Things are really, really bad for Hillary right now.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

He hasn't been around recently.

 

I see people posting damning stuff on HRC like DB is posting and then the same people respond the same way.

 

1.) Ad hominem towards the source of information

2.) Russia's behind it

3.) "That's the way things are."

4.) Say it's ridiculous to question her health and then in the same post talk about Trump's diet

 

HRC is getting chased by Congress for both Benghazi and the email server right now, the media is getting caught over and over again covering for her, her camp is getting caught lying and deceiving about her health, etc. Now the polls are finally starting to show people are getting scared off of Hillary. She's a lying, deceiving crook with more issues around her then you could make up for a TV show. Just putting everything else aside, the email server should put her to sleep. The FBI is getting called on their garbage by Congress and HRC should see her true fate unless some shenanigans disallows Chaffetz and the oversight committee from following through.

 

It is sad that the campaign has essentially devolved into that she isn't Trump. The two party system is just broken. We have the two worst Presidential candidates in history to show for it. Yet so many people are still chained to their party's machines and just reflexively defend these people.

[DrunkBomber]

How 'Birtherism' became Hillary's Waterloo

 

Hillary’s motivations were clear. She flunked her first pseudo debate with Trump on NBC’s Commander in Chief forum earlier this month, placed herself in hot water when she declared half of Trump’s supporters were in a basket of deplorables, and further sowed seeds of mistrust when she lied about her health. She had to change the narrative.

 

“Hold out baits to entice the enemy,” wrote Sun Tzu, “feign disorder, and crush him.” Hillary, by baiting Trump with the birther controversy, was hoping the outspoken candidate would respond in a manner than that was undisciplined and unpresidential. She was hoping Trump would be Trump. It was a gamble she lost.

 

Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary’s campaign manager until the Iowa caucuses in 2008, admitted first in a tweet and second in a CNN interview that a Hillary staffer first spread the birther issue. While the staffer was fired, the termination happened after the cat was let out of the bag. Patient Zero, thus, was a member of Team Hillary.

 

 

[bmags]

Out of curiosity, not going to actually use someones kid, but - let's be hypothetical parents.

 

You are called to principals office

Your teenage son/daughter has been spending the entire year spreading rumors and encouraging other kids to bully the class president saying that the president had done something juvenile, let's say peed his pants.

 

Most of the kids at the school know the story was fake, but your son kept encourging people to use it against the student president because it hurt the president and made him/her feel powerful.

 

When confronted, your son/daughter said it wasn't their fault and that the rumor actually started with the presiden'ts brother. The brother may have joked about it once but then told everyone it wasn't true and never brought it up again.

 

How would we all handle this. Because this analogy is actually more critical of clinton than can really be claimed.

 

 

[DrunkBomber]

Id probably say running the country is different than being called to the principals office.

[DrunkBomber]

Hillary Clinton Campaign Systematically Overcharging Poorest Donors

 

Wells Fargo fraud department inundated with calls from low-income Clinton supporters reporting repeated unauthorized charges

 

The overcharges are occurring so often that the fraud department at one of the nation’s biggest banks receives up to 100 phone calls a day from Clinton’s small donors asking for refunds for unauthorized charges to their bankcards made by Clinton’s campaign. One elderly Clinton donor, who has been a victim of this fraud scheme, has filed a complaint with her state’s attorney general and a representative from the office told her that they had forwarded her case to the Federal Election Commission.

[bmags]

Well there is plenty of proof to back up the things Ive been saying for months. We have the worst and most corrupt candidates of all time trying to run on the policies of one of the worst president in recent history. When I first posted the DNC leaks everyone thought it was a real joke and claimed "politics as usual." Now we see that one of the dozens of people Obama sold jobs too is not only purposely distorting facts to influence the Presidential election. Hes also so ill equipped for the job that the DHS accidentally granted citizenship to over 800 immigrants with forged paper work.

 

Meanwhile our President is helping pay for Mexico to build a southern border wall FOR MEXICO all while calling Trump racist for wanting one on our border.

 

We have the main stream media manipulating content to help Hillary in the election, including a total media black out about the DNC leaks.

 

Yesterday our military ACCIDENTALLY bombed the Syrian Army who is fighting AGAINST Isis, which also is causing huge issues with Russia.

 

We have our own state department telling us that the some of the 33 billion dollars we are giving to Iran will be used to fund terrorism and is also making Iran more hostile towards us.

 

If anyone wants pretty irrefutable proof that even if Hillary won she would be impeached very quickly watch the 12 minute video of Jason Chaffetz grilling the FBI that I posted. There is proof of multiple crimes that absolutely cannot be denied and the House Oversight Committee has no intentions of letting it go.

 

We still have whatever wikileaks is gonna release as well.

 

Things are really, really bad for Hillary right now.

 

You wanted a response so here is one, though I thought you said this had sources?

 

Syria

I'm very sad about syria. I wish I could say what I support, but the reality is I couldn't stomach letting Assad with Russia complete the massacre, but the propping up a proxy civil war is not really saving lives either. The goal of a cease fire is probably what I do support. But yes, this is a tremendous f***up and a reason not to get involved in other countries civil wars, but not getting involved does not come at zero cost.

 

The Wall

The Gang of 8 bill which passed in the Senate and was killed in the house would have been signed by the president and supported by myself. It called for wall building and substantial border security. The confusion that his policy of building a wall is why people think he is racist seems to not take seriously the idea that racism could exist. His policy is not far off from Romney, his tone that mocks Americans from Mexico as unamerican, or the insinuation that they are distinctly violent because they are Mexican is where that comes from.

 

DNC Leak

I still don't care about this, not sorry about it. The positions weren't sold. The DHS deputy is not personally overseeing immigrant documentation. That dept should get better and if it was the oversight of that dhs employee who happened to fundraise for Obama, then he should be fired and someone else should take their place.

 

Iran

The idea not forcing countries to not do business with Iran = giving 33 billion to Iran is irrational. Iran's foreign policy is dangerous and antagonistic. We've removed/delayed their ability to develop a nuke. That doesn't mean they suddenly start working for shia peace.

 

Last graf

Just, no.

[bmags]

Id probably say running the country is different than being called to the principals office.

 

Kind of reaffirms my point.

[DrunkBomber]

Kind of reaffirms my point.

Sorry, I didnt take the bait on your sad analogy.

[DrunkBomber]

You also conveniently left out the irrefutable proof that Hillary committed multiple crimes and is being very actively pursued by the House Oversight Committee. However, as I was informed earlier that is probably something the dems should be discussing in their own thread.

[DrunkBomber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPYtJ-7VmnI

 

Not sure how to imbed youtube videos (can we still do that?) But this is just formerly impeached rapist President Bill Clinton totally not being a hypocrite.

[illinilaw08]

You also conveniently left out the irrefutable proof that Hillary committed multiple crimes and is being very actively pursued by the House Oversight Committee. However, as I was informed earlier that is probably something the dems should be discussing in their own thread.

 

Unless I'm mistaken, the two examples you raised of Clinton committing multiple crimes was (1) Benghazi; and (2) the e-mail server. As to the first, I don't know how much time and money needs to be spent investigating Clinton on Benghazi, or how many times those investigations needs to not find evidence of wrongdoing, before the Republicans stop wasting everyone's time on it.

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...-probes-so-far/

 

As to the second, the FBI investigated Clinton and found nothing criminal. So I'm not sure where you come up with the "irrefutable proof that Hillary committed multiple crimes" from. Yes, the use of the private server shows was extremely careless and showed a lack of judgment on Clinton's part.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...enghazi/396182/

 

As to why I'm ultimately supporting Clinton over Trump? This President is going to appoint at least one, and probably more, Supreme Court Justices. Because those are lifetime appointments, and they have a heavy influence on social issues, I would feel much, much better with Clinton picking those candidates than Trump.

 

As to the other issues, bmags covered them all pretty well.

 

 

[DrunkBomber]

Unless I'm mistaken, the two examples you raised of Clinton committing multiple crimes was (1) Benghazi; and (2) the e-mail server. As to the first, I don't know how much time and money needs to be spent investigating Clinton on Benghazi, or how many times those investigations needs to not find evidence of wrongdoing, before the Republicans stop wasting everyone's time on it.

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...-probes-so-far/

 

As to the second, the FBI investigated Clinton and found nothing criminal. So I'm not sure where you come up with the "irrefutable proof that Hillary committed multiple crimes" from. Yes, the use of the private server shows was extremely careless and showed a lack of judgment on Clinton's part.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...enghazi/396182/

 

As to why I'm ultimately supporting Clinton over Trump? This President is going to appoint at least one, and probably more, Supreme Court Justices. Because those are lifetime appointments, and they have a heavy influence on social issues, I would feel much, much better with Clinton picking those candidates than Trump.

 

As to the other issues, bmags covered them all pretty well.

If you would have read my post I provided proof she committed crimes. Justin Cooper testified that he, Huma and Celsea all had access to the server with classified info. Also, there is no disputing she destroyed evidence that was under a preservation order and a subpoena. Her husband got impeached for lying about a blowjob.

[DrunkBomber]

 

Here is an actual video of Cooper testifying

[Soxbadger]

You provided "evidence" not "proof."

 

And Clinton was impeached by the House for perjury and obstruction of justice. He was acquitted by the Senate.

 

In order for this to even be a worry, 2/3 of the Senate would need to vote "guilty". The chances of this happening are 0. So while it may be fun for you to talk about, it wont happen. Which is why there really is no point in worrying about it.

Edited September 19, 2016 by Soxbadger

[bmags]

If you would have read my post I provided proof she committed crimes. Justin Cooper testified that he, Huma and Celsea all had access to the server with classified info. Also, there is no disputing she destroyed evidence that was under a preservation order and a subpoena. Her husband got impeached for lying about a blowjob.

 

There is actually disputing this. The FBI report covers this extensively.

[StrangeSox]

Maybe my understanding is incorrect, but there was no classified material intentionally and deliberately stored on that email server and there never should have been. There were some number of emails that were improperly sent with classified information, but since it wasn't set up as a secured classified information system, what is the issue with her non-clearance staff having access to it?

 

Through my work, I have access to classified (not DoD space, but similar) information. It's stored on secured, isolated systems. If I were to take that information and put it on our regular business network, I may personally be responsible for that, but that wouldn't mean it was criminal for everyone in my office to have access to that business system since I messed up.

 

It's not like they were given access to a SCIF improperly or something.