whitesoxfan99 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) Hillary supporters never answer me they just blame the messenger or blast me. What did I say out of line? Have you seen Trump rallies? Or read about them? Packed. Hillary's? Downtown Kansas City was expecting to be shut down and only a few fans trickled in to hear her speech. Crazy. Even on Soxtalk. Nobody points out anything good about her. Her supporters (almost all of Soxtalk) want her President and that's about it. They also rip and mock Trump, which of course is easy to do. But this isn't about Trump being bad. It's about Hillary and all signs point to a Presidency that will be dreadful. We already know there's no chance in hell anything's getting passed with Congress (the Repub majority) despising her. And lets see if we are safe internationally under her leadership. They answer you and you ignore it and come back with more ignorant nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) Can you say ... rigged? No I can't. What actual evidence do you have that the election is rigged? Who would be rigging this election for Hillary? If she's so powerful, how did some inexperienced, Kenyan, Muslim, jihadist beat her? All this talk of a rigged election is dangerous. The election hasn't even occurred and people like you are planting a seed that the system is nefariously rigged as if we are some third world country. All that does is increase the chances of unnecessary violence. You should be ashamed to be spreading such garbage lies. EDIT: And it's amazing to see Trump pound his chest when a favorable poll comes out. Which one is it? Rigged or you're leading in a poll. Make up your f**** mind idiot.. EDIT 2: Here's your voter fraud proof. *drops mic* Edited October 17, 2016 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 05:05 PM) Clinton's campaign caught on video/audio talking about purposely inciting violence at Trump rallies. A key Clinton operative is on camera saying, “It doesn’t matter what the friggin’ legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherf***er." The Field Director for Citizens United, Scott Foval said on camera, "If you're here and you're protesting and you do these actions, you will be attacked at Trump rallies. That's what we want." He kept running his mouth too, "The campaign pays the DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the s*** on the ground." MSM has yet to acknowledge this and Fox News cancelled the scheduled appearance of the writer who heads up the site that put forth this video/audio. No word on whether Putin and the Russians put this together so we're not sure if it's credible yet. Let me guess, you didnt actually watch the videos. Lets start at 2:18, notice that they never show what question is actually asked. There is actually no way to understand what this 15 minutes is, because its multiple different videos spliced together. Find me the raw footage, otherwise I just wasted 15 minutes when I could have been watching "ancient aliens." I mean come on, you saw the helicopter in the hieroglyphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) I think that every election, but in the end, the polls end up being strikingly right every time. Also, just seems to me that most Trump supporters are very into it and vocal, so I'd think they'd be more likely to answer a call about it. But who knows. In the end, I can't see any variance from the polls being large. For every reason it seems Trump supporters are under-counted, there are reasons to think they are over-counted. We will see one way or another that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) More on this from you when the Russians are implicated! Can't wait. Yeah, James O'Keefe doesn't have a history of ever selectively editing video tapes or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) More on this from you when the Russians are implicated! Can't wait. So you didnt watch the video? Got it. And even Pence has implicated the Russians in the hacks. http://www.newsweek.com/pence-contradicts-...nd-hacks-510468 In another interview on NBC's "Meet the Press," Pence said "there's more and more evidence that implicates Russia." Damn those pesky facts. I would hate to ever get involved in a discussion where someone actually had to use legitimate facts/evidence, that would be so boring and dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) Clinton's campaign caught on video/audio talking about purposely inciting violence at Trump rallies. A key Clinton operative is on camera saying, “It doesn’t matter what the friggin’ legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherf***er." The Field Director for Citizens United, Scott Foval said on camera, "If you're here and you're protesting and you do these actions, you will be attacked at Trump rallies. That's what we want." He kept running his mouth too, "The campaign pays the DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the s*** on the ground." MSM has yet to acknowledge this and Fox News cancelled the scheduled appearance of the writer who heads up the site that put forth this video/audio. No word on whether Putin and the Russians put this together so we're not sure if it's credible yet. I can't imagine why the media might be skeptical about a James O'Keefe video with frequent jump-cuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 05:34 PM) I watched it and I have no idea what Pende has to do with anything. I don't know anything about O'Keefe but there's full clips of multiple officials speaking on their routine practice of criminality and paying for violence. I don't care if Hitler released the video from his grave, the officials are identifiable and on tape/audio. Amazing how anyone who doesn't agree with Clinton isn't reputable. Maybe research your own sources? http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/James_O%27Keefe And we dont know what those officials are talking about, because the author of the video has historically created "shock" videos by taking interviews out of context. I didnt even realize it was O-Keefe, but within the first 3 minutes I knew that it was being spliced. That is why it is unreliable. As for Pence, you said something about Russian implication. I merely pointed out that even Trump's VP thinks that the Russians are implicated in the hacks. So again, when you bring evidence, you should vet it first. Its your credibility on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 O'Keefe is notorious for using slimy ways to make people look bad. Was even arrested once for breaking into a politician's office trying to bug her phone or something. He often chops up videos to make things look worse than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 11:34 PM) I don't know anything about O'Keefe but there's full clips of multiple officials speaking on their routine practice of criminality and paying for violence. I don't care if Hitler released the video from his grave, the officials are identifiable and on tape/audio. Amazing how anyone who doesn't agree with Clinton isn't reputable. O'Keefe is famous for making undercover videos, and then editing the videos to look like something they're not. Can you point to the portion of the video where they pay for violence? I only got a few minutes in and all I saw was that they said they would send people to troll the Trump supporters, knowing THEY would get violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If you are unfamiliar with a source, it's not a bad idea to check that source out before using it as support or evidence for a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) You're using rallies as not only a popularity contest, but a sign that the election is rigged. I'm supporting Hillary Clinton in this election. I wish there was another candidate representing the Democratic Party, but she'll do. With that said, I'd never go to a rally. What's the point? You want to know why we blast you. You continue to say you aren't voting or won't side with Trump, yet you are using his exact rhetoric. And you know you are. You're the guy yelling at a Trump Rally "LOCK HER UP" and "BUILD THAT WALL" Finally. Thank you. Tony you said all I want to hear. You said "I wish there was another candidate representing the Democratic Party, but she'll do." I had not heard that from you or many Hillary-ites before. Thank u for being honest and admitting she is not ideal. That is big of you and I respect you for this stance. I can accept people voting for Hillary if they at least admit what you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Hmmmm ... Hillary gets a break on the tarmac then again with Comey. Trump and Hillary both need to drop out of the race. http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusiv.../#ixzz4NOfCXizH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 07:00 AM) Greg, that is why many people here get so upset with you. You aren't going to find a ton of huge Hillary supporters here. Read what they say, and you'd see that. The issue is for many, myself include, Trump and his base are SO far gone, Hillary is without question the better candidate of the two. She has her major flaws and this will go down as one of the worst elections of all time, but Trump vs. Hillary isn't much of a question. And I accept that and respect that. But nobody besides you on the Hillary side has come out and said she is flawed. I respect your stance and you actually are right. She is less "dangerous." I just don't like her, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 01:13 AM) And I accept that and respect that. But nobody besides you on the Hillary side has come out and said she is flawed. I respect your stance and you actually are right. She is less "dangerous." I just don't like her, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Greg, I think I've prefaced every single post about Hillary Clinton with words expressing exactly that same sentiment. I haven't seen one Democrat claiming "I just LOVE Hillary Clinton so much!!!" 75-85% of the reason why most are voting in this election is 1) to STOP TRUMP FROM BECOMING PRESIDENT, 2) the SUPREME COURT and 3) PROGRESSIVE POLICIES/INCREMENTAL TRIANGULATION IN THEIR PREFERRED POLITICAL DIRECTION. As opposed to all out nuclear armageddon and international embarrassment/global catastrophe...and undoing most if not all of the "good" that the US has done for the rest of the world since 1776. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Someone accidentally closed this thread. I'd open it back but I don't have the mod tools to do it. Edited October 18, 2016 by Ezio Auditore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 06:16 AM) Someone accidentally closed this thread. I'd open it back but I don't have the mod tools to do it. Damn fat fingers on little cell phones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I probably closed it because of gregs eleven millionth statement about all the Hillary supporters in this thread. Just a knee jerk reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 06:59 AM) Scott Foval, the man I quoted from the video and the man a few here defended, was fired by Americans United for Change tonight. The day the video released. I guess it didn't end up mattering that I didn't check the source of a video of an indetifiable man admitting guilt of a crime. Being fired for bad PR isn't the same as admitting guilt of a crime. You still haven't quoted any criminal activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 liberal hypocrisy? http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/nearly-naked-...-fury-downtown/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) liberal hypocrisy? http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/nearly-naked-...-fury-downtown/ The naked Donald Trump crap was denounced by a lot of liberals, there's just no place for this kind of body shaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) The naked Donald Trump crap was denounced by a lot of liberals, there's just no place for this kind of body shaming. It's still up, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 04:38 PM) Here's the guy you're defending. https://twitter.com/lyz_estrada/status/788202618312990720 In a conversation about how you're appealing to bad sources, you link to a photoshopped tweet. Cmon. Btw, I didn't actually defend him, but don't let facts get in your way. I was skeptical of your accusation that people were paid to be violent, which you said you didn't have time to support last night, but still haven't today. Edit: typo Edited October 18, 2016 by CrimsonWeltall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 11:43 AM) It's still up, no? There were multiple put up, I know many were taken down but not sure if 100% of them were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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