2016 Republican Thread

[CanOfCorn]

Here it is. Electoral College can refuse to put in Trump

 

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/...ctoral-college/

 

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scena...he-white-house/

 

And for those who think I troll about Chelsea ... look at this. She's being prepped to run for Congress

 

http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clint...n-for-congress/

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-chel...ressional-seat/

 

 

Maybe just maybe my posts have a shred of CORRECT futuristic thinking when a lot of you think I'm full of it.

 

 

First you said they WILL. Now you say they COULD. Which is it?

[greg775]

First you said they WILL. Now you say they COULD. Which is it?

Oh my bad. It was my prediction that they WILL. The TV and articles said it could. It's my take that they will, because Trump is hated by so many. And it could add to the "rigged" scenario.

[CanOfCorn]

Oh my bad. It was my prediction that they WILL. The TV and articles said it could. It's my take that they will, because Trump is hated by so many. And it could add to the "rigged" scenario.

 

IF, and I mean IF, the Electoral College didn't get Mr. Trump to 270 votes needed. it goes to the House of Representatives and then THEY vote from the top 3 vote getters from the Electoral College. So, if it was Trump, Clinton and let's say Romney, the House chooses between those three.

[NorthSideSox72]

IF, and I mean IF, the Electoral College didn't get Mr. Trump to 270 votes needed. it goes to the House of Representatives and then THEY vote from the top 3 vote getters from the Electoral College. So, if it was Trump, Clinton and let's say Romney, the House chooses between those three.

Well wait... let's say this one-in-a-million (or one in a Greg?) scenario happens. If the Electors give Clinton 270, doesn't she win, end of story?

 

[CrimsonWeltall]

If the electors don't pick Trump, that would be an even bigger disaster than Trump being President.

 

Also, I would like to buy life insurance on those electors.

[CanOfCorn]

Well wait... let's say this one-in-a-million (or one in a Greg?) scenario happens. If the Electors give Clinton 270, doesn't she win, end of story?

 

Yes, I believe that is right.

 

If the electors don't pick Trump, that would be an even bigger disaster than Trump being President.

 

Also, I would like to buy life insurance on those electors.

 

It's a secret ballot, no one would know. But teeeechnicaaaaally, this is what the Electoral College is kiiiiiinda for. Kiiiiinda.

[chw42]

If the electors don't pick Trump, that would be an even bigger disaster than Trump being President.

 

Also, I would like to buy life insurance on those electors.

 

Trump and Pence would literally have to commit treason or murder before December for the electors to flip.

[illinilaw08]

If the electors don't pick Trump, that would be an even bigger disaster than Trump being President.

 

Also, I would like to buy life insurance on those electors.

 

Yep. I'm extremely anti-Trump, and I also think the Electoral College is archaic and should be scrapped. But it's the system we have now. Faithless electors would be an absolute disaster.

[NorthSideSox72]

Trump and Pence would literally have to commit treason or murder before December for the electors to flip.

 

 

Yep. I'm extremely anti-Trump, and I also think the Electoral College is archaic and should be scrapped. But it's the system we have now. Faithless electors would be an absolute disaster.

 

Agreed on both. I despise Trump but this can't happen.

 

[iamshack]

Trump and Pence would literally have to commit treason or murder before December for the electors to flip.

You act as though those are long odds or something...

[southsider2k5]

You act as though those are long odds or something...

 

Yeah, it is waaaay more likely someone murders one of them.

[caulfield12]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sees-japan...-071656434.html

 

now planning to build "dozens of new warships" for the U.S. Navy while simultaneously claiming to be pulling back on policing the world?

 

brilliant....

 

does he believe America also can declare bankruptcy as a country with no consequences?

Edited November 12, 2016 by caulfield12

[southsider2k5]

The Trib looks at why Hillary failed.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...1114-story.html

[Pants Rowland]

OK, diving into the deep end without a life preserver here. I barely post but I want to hear what you traditional GOP supporters think.

 

I believe we are falling deeper into a crisis that will threaten our national security in the not so distant future. True patriots in Congress would be making a noble sacrifice to intercede and publicly call for electors in those states Trump won to either abstain from voting or cast their votes for another candidate, possibly one in particular. I am pretty confident it could not be HRC, but I believe supporting a third candidate not named Trump or Pence would stave off a true national nightmare even if there is public unrest in the short term.

 

The chaos ensuing in the transition right now appears to be the tip of the iceberg for the next 4 years. I also do not believe Pence would be a good choice due to his extreme views and affiliation with Trump, but if leaders from both sides met to select a more moderate minded Republican, it could be a compromise to keep people from rioting and set a good example to the American people on the need for compromise and reconciliation.

 

I'll hang up and listen to your thoughts.

[caulfield12]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-...1/15/id/759037/

This article by Ed Klein basically argues that HRC lost primarily because she failed to listen to her husband's political instincts, and Mook/Podesta/pollsters/Cheryl Mills/Huma Abedin tuned him out as well.

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-state-stude...-160111812.html

 

Tackling public speakers at universities in the name of "defending Trump" isn't going to go over very well.

 

 

Realistically, John Kasich might be the only Republican right now that would be able to achieve a modicum of "moderate/independent" support, and that's if you concentrate specifically on his last 5-10 years and not his entire history in government (which is much more conservative, especially on values touched by religious or spiritual belief).

 

No way it could be Ted Cruz.

 

 

Kasich is also appropriate because he understands more than anyone what's going on with those Rust Belt/Obama voters more than anyone as a governor.

Edited November 16, 2016 by caulfield12

[Pants Rowland]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-...1/15/id/759037/

This article by Ed Klein basically argues that HRC lost primarily because she failed to listen to her husband's political instincts, and Mook/Podesta/pollsters/Cheryl Mills/Huma Abedin tuned him out as well.

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-state-stude...-160111812.html

 

Tackling public speakers at universities in the name of "defending Trump" isn't going to go over very well.

 

 

Realistically, John Kasich might be the only Republican right now that would be able to achieve a modicum of "moderate/independent" support, and that's if you concentrate specifically on his last 5-10 years and not his entire history in government (which is much more conservative, especially on values touched by religious or spiritual belief).

 

No way it could be Ted Cruz.

 

 

Kasich is also appropriate because he understands more than anyone what's going on with those Rust Belt/Obama voters more than anyone as a governor.

 

I agree about Kasich. A lot of liberals I know bristle when I mention him as being moderate and an acceptable alternative for both sides, but if something like this happens, there would have to be a compromise and it would have to happen quickly. I have also heard Mitt Romney as an alternative, but he is a bit tainted. The other name I heard floated is Susana Martinez of New Mexico. She is GOP with executive experience from a purple state and could get enough support from both sides of the aisle to encourage enough electors (DJT and HRC) to vote faithlessly and give her the 270 outright. I have to learn more about her, but quick glace at her pedigree makes her sound intriguing.

 

EDIT: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...h-donald-trump/

 

Maybe Martinez is not the right choice here.

Edited November 16, 2016 by Pants Rowland

[Kyyle23]

Here it is. Electoral College can refuse to put in Trump

 

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/...ctoral-college/

 

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scena...he-white-house/

 

And for those who think I troll about Chelsea ... look at this. She's being prepped to run for Congress

 

http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clint...n-for-congress/

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-chel...ressional-seat/

 

 

Maybe just maybe my posts have a shred of CORRECT futuristic thinking when a lot of you think I'm full of it.

 

There is a reason why we joke about you and betting houses. Mostly because you are almost always wrong when you make predictions.

[Pants Rowland]

There is a reason why we joke about you and betting houses. Mostly because you are almost always wrong when you make predictions.

 

I'm sorry, but it is pretty obvious to me that Greg is one of 3 things:

 

-The best troll on this site

-7 years old

-an intellectual man boy

 

I am not sure why anyone continues to respond to this farce.

[southsider2k5]

I'm sorry, but it is pretty obvious to me that Greg is one of 3 things:

 

-The best troll on this site

-7 years old

-an intellectual man boy

 

I am not sure why anyone continues to respond to this farce.

 

But are you willing to bet your house on it?

[Pants Rowland]

But are you willing to bet your house on it?

 

I'll bet his house.

[CrimsonWeltall]

I'll bet his house.

 

Which one? He has thousands

[caulfield12]

http://forward.com/series/forward-50/2016/ben-shapiro/

 

If everyone hates you at the current juncture...both Trump supporters and anyone on the left who detests Breitbart...doesn't make much sense to fan the flames. Is the hope for unity between those two groups in their dislike for Shapiro?

 

He's probably in a lot more danger from the alt-right folks than the typical pacifist liberal.

[southsider2k5]

http://forward.com/series/forward-50/2016/ben-shapiro/

 

If everyone hates you at the current juncture...both Trump supporters and anyone on the left who detests Breitbart...doesn't make much sense to fan the flames. Is the hope for unity between those two groups in their dislike for Shapiro?

 

He's probably in a lot more danger from the alt-right folks than the typical pacifist liberal.

 

Funny to hear that coming right after all of the violent protests around the country.

[Soxbadger]

https://youtu.be/YhSy6z6_qg4

 

Ben Shapiro unable to speak are DePaul University because he was a "security concern."

 

Depaul is a private university, they can do whatever they want. Im actually not sure why they believe its a security concern. No idea, but it is well within Depaul's rights as a private institution.

 

That being said, I personally dont agree with banning people from speaking. Even if that person makes disingenuous arguments and attempts to insult me and even if that person does not believe in free speech themselves.

 

https://badgerherald.com/news/2016/11/17/co...edom-of-speech/

 

Shapiro at one point called for UWPD to stop the obstruction, but the protesters left of their own accord by all accounts.

 

Certain irony that Shaprio is saying in 1 video "why did you bring so many police" and then at Wisconsin complains that there are "only 3" officers and asks for anyone with a dissenting view to be silenced.

 

I guess Mr. Shaprio was just looking for a "safe space" where he could express his ideas.

Edited November 17, 2016 by Soxbadger

[GoSox05]

Yeah I just watched a group of pacifist liberals 10 minutes from my place beat the s*** out of a man and steal his belongings while stating their political motivations. Don't worry though, Caulfield is on the ground getting to the bottom of it!

 

They stated their political motivations while beating him up?

 

Like was it heavy on policy or more like vague political slogans? Did they punch him and then go "I support a 15 dollar minimum wage" Kick him "single payer healthcare is the only way".