GreenSox Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) Johnson is better than Carroll, but the point in Carroll's favor is that strong groundball rate the last two years, while Johnson's 52% FB% last year is very concerning. He got a bit lucky that most of the HR he gave up were just solo HR, so his ERA ended up looking OK. That's a big concern about EJ (everyone's fav Nate Jones too). Probably would have been a good guy to trade (coupled with what I infer is the org's lack of trust in him). Carroll has a great gb%. He may be more effective with this revitalized infield D. (although the D was fine last year after May and he still had a high WHIP). Petricka has the same game, but is more effective. Samardzija had a low gb%, which is another reason why that acquisition was curious. Edited January 5, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) That's a big concern about EJ (everyone's fav Nate Jones too). Probably would have been a good guy to trade (coupled with what I infer is the org's lack of trust in him). Carroll has a great gb%. He may be more effective with this revitalized infield D. (although the D was fine last year after May and he still had a high WHIP). Petricka has the same game, but is more effective. Samardzija had a low gb%, which is another reason why that acquisition was curious. Jones' career FB% is 31%, that's not very concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:04 PM) Jones' career FB% is 31%, that's not very concerning. 52.4%, however, is. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P Edited January 5, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) 52.4%, however, is. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P Not seeing where this figure is, I still see 31% for his career, and even this year where he only pitched 19 innings his FB% was 40.5%, nowhere close to 52.4%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Not seeing where this figure is, I still see 31% for his career, and even this year where he only pitched 19 innings his FB% was 40.5%, nowhere close to 52.4%. BUT THAT DOESN'T FIT HIS NARRATIVE!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 pages about a rumor that isn't even a rumor. Nicky Mitch is full of s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Not seeing where this figure is, I still see 31% for his career, and even this year where he only pitched 19 innings his FB% was 40.5%, nowhere close to 52.4%. You're not supposed to actually look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Not seeing where this figure is, I still see 31% for his career, and even this year where he only pitched 19 innings his FB% was 40.5%, nowhere close to 52.4%. It says total GB % 47.6%. Where do you see 31% and 40.5% http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) It says total GB % 47.6%. Where do you see 31% and 40.5% http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P You are ignoring his LD%. His FB% as your link CLEARLY shows is 31.0% for his career and 40.5% for last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) It says total GB % 47.6%. Where do you see 31% and 40.5% http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P Right next to the 47.6 is a 31.0 which is his career flyball rate, and the 40.5 is right above that with the 2015 total. Edited January 5, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 He's a good gamble, if healthy and on a team friendly deal. I wouldn't be upset if the White Sox took a chance on him. At best, he could earn a rotation spot or at least make Erik Johnson do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) It says total GB % 47.6%. Where do you see 31% and 40.5% http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P Look at the batted ball section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) Look at the batted ball section. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 it's a great deal for Fister who will likely be cashing checks on the DL thanks to his worn out elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/01/doug...22-million.html "Right-hander Doug Fister and his agents at PSI Sports Management have been seeking a two-year contract worth a guaranteed total of about $22MM this offseason, a source tells ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Good luck with that! Latos and Fister do have the fact they won't cost draft pick compensation on their side. For teams with higher first rounders, that wipes out Kennedy, along with his higher price tag compared to Latos (who also has the reputation of being a clubhouse chemistry issue from time to time.) Fister has lost a lot of velocity, Gallardo more by design to induce groundballs and lower pitch counts. 1. Latos 2. Kennedy 3. Gallardo 4. Fister Edited January 16, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 @NickyMitch93 I was told #WhiteSox have a 4 year offer out to shortstop NickyMitch93 Part of me isn't sure if this is true or not, but it was on twitter.com, so that makes me think it probably is. 4 years is kind of a lot, but if the dollars aren't crazy, I think it's a good call. Bridge to Anderson and I think NickyMitch93 can play some outfield as well, so could be moved there or flipped to another team. Solid Hahn move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) @NickyMitch93 I was told #WhiteSox have a 4 year offer out to shortstop NickyMitch93 Part of me isn't sure if this is true or not, but it was on twitter.com, so that makes me think it probably is. 4 years is kind of a lot, but if the dollars aren't crazy, I think it's a good call. Bridge to Anderson and I think NickyMitch93 can play some outfield as well, so could be moved there or flipped to another team. Solid Hahn move. Desmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 08:17 PM) Desmond? You missed the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I have no clue who NickyMitch93 is...but false twitter rumors and non-activity are definitely the stories of this offseason, unless you're a starting pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) I have no clue who NickyMitch93 is...but false twitter rumors and non-activity are definitely the stories of this offseason, unless you're a starting pitcher. Read the post again. I think it might make more sense to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I found the post to be creatively humorous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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