southsider2k5 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) He doesn't really have any reason to lie signing as a 16-year old. Unless he is saying he's older to be able to sign quicker. Agreeed. He would fall under the same rules if he was 16/17 or 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) He doesn't really have any reason to lie signing as a 16-year old. Unless he is saying he's older to be able to sign quicker. He is probably more valuable as a 16 year old than as someone a year or 2 older. Many years ago when I played American Legion, scouts would give some of us index cards to fill out some of our information. I was younger than most of the guys on the team, and it was always "suggested" that you make yourself a year or 2 younger on the card. I would think if you got drafted, that would eventually be detected. But with the international guys, you never know. So there is probably some motivation to make himself a little younger, although he is probably legitimately 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 08:23 AM) I don't mean to sound like a tool, but is there any legit proof that this guy is really 16? Ben Badler of Baseball America - who is probably the most expert guy out there in the US on LatAm baseball - was discussing this recently. Believe it or not, the records in Cuba are considered much harder to fudge and more likely to be accurate than the ones from the DR. That was in reference to current times, and apparently a decade or two ago it was much worse in Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 4, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) Ben Badler of Baseball America - who is probably the most expert guy out there in the US on LatAm baseball - was discussing this recently. Believe it or not, the records in Cuba are considered much harder to fudge and more likely to be accurate than the ones from the DR. That was in reference to current times, and apparently a decade or two ago it was much worse in Cuba. Yes, there were people who swore Contreras and El Duque were 10 years older than their listed ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Every time I see this kid's name the opening riff of this song immediately starts playing in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 And to add something actually relevant to this thread.... JP: would Lazarito crack your top 100, if eligible? Klaw: Absolutely not. Wouldn’t even be a consideration. Mike: How much time in the minors will Lazarito likely need, assuming he’s legit? Klaw: That guy has gotten way more press than his workouts have merited. He may get his $20-30 million but I haven’t found a scout that put in a report that would get him close to that money. Keith Law is not a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Isn't he being ranked around #10 in the Top 20 LA prospects signing list? Adolfo was higher than that, wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Phil Rogers @philgrogers 10h10 hours ago Cuban phenom Lazarito nearing decision. Sent with @MLB At Bat Cubs among the teams believed to be in picture. http://mlb.com/r/article?ymd=20160208&...lb&c_id=mlb … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 MLB @MLB 38m38 minutes ago Cuban phenom “Lazarito” says he plans to make a decision by Wednesday. Who's in the running? http://atmlb.com/1nVN9is The Dodgers, Cubs, Giants and Royals -- who have each exceeded their bonus pools this year and won't be able to sign any pool-eligible prospects for more than $300,000 for the next two international signing periods -- are still in play for Armenteros during the current period. The Braves, Padres and Phillies have been very aggressive on the international market and each team expects to have a solid class of prospects for the next international signing period that starts on July 2. Armenteros would have to wait until July 2 if he wanted to sign with those three clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 10:20 AM) Phil Rogers @philgrogers 10h10 hours ago Cuban phenom Lazarito nearing decision. Sent with @MLB At Bat Cubs among the teams believed to be in picture. http://mlb.com/r/article?ymd=20160208&...lb&c_id=mlb … Why wouldn't every team that went over be in on this. I think he signs during the upcoming period, but he did say that he is close to making a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 2h2 hours ago Lazaro "Lazarito” Armenteros, 16-yr-old Cuban phenom, expected to decide team today or tom Word is he was at #Padres complex 4 days recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 2h2 hours ago Lazaro "Lazarito” Armenteros, 16-yr-old Cuban phenom, expected to decide team today or tom Word is he was at #Padres complex 4 days recently He'd have to wait until next signing period to sign with Padres I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) He'd have to wait until next signing period to sign with Padres I believe. Yep. I can't see why he would wait honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 10m10 minutes ago Agent: Lazarito Not Close To Decision http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/laza...sion-close.html … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 10m10 minutes ago Agent: Lazarito Not Close To Decision http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/laza...sion-close.html … This means that he's probably signing with a team for the 2016 class. If the Braves are offering the most $$, he has incentive to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 15, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) A lot of scouts aren't as in love with Lazarito as the media had been. They think a lot less of him than they did Moncada, that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 A lot a lot, or the same group that said Abreu had slider speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 4m4 minutes ago Lazarito bombshell: U.S. agent drops him after death threat. Story with @jonmorosi:... http://fb.me/2tFgn1rcO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Worldwide draft really will be a benefit in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Worldwide draft really will be a benefit in that respect. And honestly it doesn't even need to be a separate draft. Put them all into one entry draft unless we are talking about true free agents. That would be the most equitable way to do things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 4m4 minutes ago Lazarito bombshell: U.S. agent drops him after death threat. Story with @jonmorosi:... http://fb.me/2tFgn1rcO Well, that's a snag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) And honestly it doesn't even need to be a separate draft. Put them all into one entry draft unless we are talking about true free agents. That would be the most equitable way to do things. I think it would need to start out separate, otherwise it is a severe disadvantage to the international prospects. Raw 16 years olds would be selected infrequently in the first round compared to more refined American players at 18-23. Plus that would create some eligibility issues for MLB, it would be very difficult for MLB to keep American kids out of the draft at 16 if they made their international counterparts eligible for the same draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) I think it would need to start out separate, otherwise it is a severe disadvantage to the international prospects. Raw 16 years olds would be selected infrequently in the first round compared to more refined American players at 18-23. Plus that would create some eligibility issues for MLB, it would be very difficult for MLB to keep American kids out of the draft at 16 if they made their international counterparts eligible for the same draft. They should make it years old, or HS graduates anyway. Truly level the playing field. American draft kids are already at a disadvantage because they are locked into one team through the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 19m19 minutes ago From last night: Lazarito and his family speak, give different view of dispute with agent. Story: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cuban-p...th-agent-022416 … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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