fathom Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yet to see any baseball reporter suggest jays will go after a big OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:36 PM) Eh, they'd still be better served going after a pitcher with any money they have. But who would they spend on? Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure they've already spent on 5 guys for their rotation with Stroman also being a lock. I know they have Stroman Estrada Happ Chavez who was acquired to start and Dickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) Not signing Price opened up this possibility, fwiw. Imagine that line-up with one more power bat. Blocking Pompey won't stand in the way of a super team if they can make the numbers work. The brewery certainly wants to sustain the financial success and bandwagon that kicked off last July. Yep, gotta agree. They could sign a big bat and trade Pompey for a comparable young starting pitcher. I definitely would not over-look the Jays at this point and the kicker is they are not afraid of long term commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:39 PM) Yet to see any baseball reporter suggest jays will go after a big OF It's been like an hour and it's a Friday. And just because a guy suggests something or not doesn't mean that's the definite case. Every year this late fans always try to connect the dots, figuring out what players can go what to teams, and there's always teams that make moves that opens up possible fits. Edited January 9, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:40 AM) Yep, gotta agree. They could sign a big bat and trade Pompey for a comparable young starting pitcher. I definitely would not over-look the Jays at this point and the kicker is they are not afraid of long term commitments. Aren't they notorious for not giving long-term deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:41 AM) It's been like an hour and it's a Friday. And just because a guy suggests something or not doesn't mean that's the definite case. They have Saunders, Pillar and Bautista in the OF with Pompey waiting. They have no openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:34 PM) Keep f***ing doubting Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams. Who's doubting Hahn and KW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Stroman Estrada Dickey Happ Hutchison Jesse Chavez Do they really need seven starters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:34 PM) Keep f***ing doubting Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams. Huh? Who's doubting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:43 PM) Who's doubting Hahn and KW? If he's referring to me, it doesn't make sense. I'm just throwing out that another team could possibly be a fit. Just because I said it doesn't mean I think it'll definitely happen. I believe in Hahn to get one if Upton and Cespedes. Edited January 9, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Saunders was last a full time player in 2013 and he wasnt much over an 700 ops. I don't think many Jays fans perceive him as a regular starter...more of a platoon candidate at best. And, health issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:42 PM) They have Saunders, Pillar and Bautista in the OF with Pompey waiting. They have no openings. Yeah, there are reportsb saying they traded revere because he was a luxury with their surplus of OFs. They are not in this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:42 PM) They have Saunders, Pillar and Bautista in the OF with Pompey waiting. They have no openings. I think they use a rotating DH for the most part though. And come on man, they wouldn't be fooling anyone if they said they believe Saunders to be the starter and healthy for most of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:48 PM) Yeah, there are reportsb saying they traded revere because he was a luxury with their surplus of OFs. They are not in this market. I wonder who's gonna leadoff in that lineup. Their lineup reminds me of some of those 2000s Sox teams that had so much right handed pop (Thomas, Lee, Magglio, Konerko) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:48 PM) I think they use a rotating DH for the most part though. And come on man, they wouldn't be fooling anyone if they said they believe Saunders to be the starter and healthy for most of the season. They're not fooling anyone with anyone in that rotation either....outside of Stroman, maybe. They can afford to have a "hole" in LF given the state of their current lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:46 PM) If he's referring to me, it doesn't make sense. I'm just throwing out that another team could possibly be a fit. Just because I said it doesn't mean I think it'll definitely happen. I believe in Hahn to get one if Upton and Cespedes. Well, I'm in agreement with you cause I see the Jays as a much bigger threat than the Nat's before they traded for Revere. As you said, Toronto has an open corner in the OF and seemingly money to burn. Also, they take pride in their powerful offense so it wouldn't be surprising if they added a big bat to an already big offense. As you said, not saying they will add a big bat but I'm not ruling them out and in fact I think they are a player in the Cespedes/Upton sweepstakes after the Revere trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:53 PM) They're not fooling anyone with anyone in that rotation either....outside of Stroman, maybe. They can afford to have a "hole" in LF given the state of their current lineup. I get that, but they have a lot of money tied up in that rotation between 5 starters already. I see Chen signing with the Nats (he's been connected to them throughout the offseason). I just don't know who they'd spend on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Personally I think J UP fits better than Cespy in Toronto. No one knows how this will shake out but it's promising to see guys coming off the board to teams we thought were competitors. Who knows who and if we end up with anyone but so far the FO is playing their cards right and I'm cautiously optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) Personally I think J UP fits better than Cespy in Toronto. No one knows how this will shake out but it's promising to see guys coming off the board to teams we thought were competitors. Who knows who and if we end up with anyone but so far the FO is playing their cards right and I'm cautiously optimistic. Agree I think we still do end up with Cespedes or Upton. It would be amazing if we got a "Davis agrees to deal with Orioles" headline this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:42 PM) They have Saunders, Pillar and Bautista in the OF with Pompey waiting. They have no openings. Yeah, there are reportsb saying they traded revere because he was a luxury with their surplus of OFs. They are not in this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:55 PM) Well, I'm in agreement with you cause I see the Jays as a much bigger threat than the Nat's before they traded for Revere. As you said, Toronto has an open corner in the OF and seemingly money to burn. Also, they take pride in their powerful offense so it wouldn't be surprising if they added a big bat to an already big offense. As you said, not saying they will add a big bat but I'm not ruling them out and in fact I think they are a player in the Cespedes/Upton sweepstakes after the Revere trade. Toronto would be better served to make a run at someone like Parra, and look for more pitching depth with the cash it would take for YC/JU. Parra would be a good compliment to a lineup that is full of mashers already imo, as they've got plenty of pop as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) I get that, but they have a lot of money tied up in that rotation between 5 starters already. I see Chen signing with the Nats (he's been connected to them throughout the offseason). I just don't know who they'd spend on. They've spent 33.5 million for the 2016 season on Estrada, Dickey, and Happ. Stroman & Hutchison are close to minimum guys, and Chavez won't get that much in arbitration. Tulo & Martin make more than that between the 2 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:00 PM) Yeah, there are reportsb saying they traded revere because he was a luxury with their surplus of OFs. They are not in this market. This x10000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:04 PM) They've spent 33.5 million for the 2016 season on Estrada, Dickey, and Happ. Stroman & Hutchison are close to minimum guys, and Chavez won't get that much in arbitration. Tulo & Martin make more than that between the 2 of them. Stroman, being a minimum guy, still wouldn't be replaced. Again, not saying the Jays will definitely make a run, but wouldn't be the least bit shocked if they ended up with one. Edited January 9, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2016 -> 11:07 PM) Stroman, being a minimum guy, still wouldn't be replaced. Obviously. My point is, they have less than 40 million invested in their rotation for 2016....that's not a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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