YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 It'll suck to see Alexei in another uniform other than a White Sox one, but it was time to part ways. That being said, I'll always root for him and appreciate how he helped the Sox in his tenure here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 02:38 PM) Anderson will either be traded at the deadline or playing in Chicago this season. Well... in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) What a cool bit of trivia. Alexei Ramirez - Paul Konerko - Frank Thomas - Ozzie Guillen - Carlton Fisk - Jerry Hairston - ...? I can get back to 1983. Anybody in 1982? Edit: Hairston is wrong, flavum's on it up there with Squires. Ventura? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) What a cool bit of trivia. Alexei Ramirez - Paul Konerko - Frank Thomas - Ozzie Guillen - Carlton Fisk - Jerry Hairston - ...? I can get back to 1983. Anybody in 1982? Edit: Hairston is wrong, flavum's on it up there with Squires. Fisk was on the '81 & '82 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Alexei Ramirez finishes his White Sox career with 4999 plate appearances. When he's in his 40s and retired, let's sign him to an honorary one-day contract and get him that elusive #5000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 04:34 PM) Fisk was on the '81 & '82 teams. Fisk wasn't in his 8th straight season with the Sox until 1988. The answer to the question...when was the last time the Sox didn't have a position player on the roster for 8 consecutive seasons?, is 1986. Mike Squires 1984-1985 1986 Baines in his 7th season, Squires was done. Other position players in their 8th straight season with the Sox or longer... Harold Baines 1987-1989 Carlton Fisk 1988-1993 Jerry Hairston 1989-1990 Greg Walker 1989-1990 Ozzie Guillen 1992-1997 Ron Karkovice 1993-1997 Lance Johnson 1995 Robin Ventura 1996-1998 Frank Thomas 1997-2005 Ray Durham 2002 Magglio Ordonez 2004 Paul Konerko 2006-2014 Joe Crede 2007-2008 AJ Pierzynski 2012 Alexei Ramirez 2015 And now the longest position player tenure is Avisail Garcia and Leury Garcia, if they play in their 4th straight this year. Edited January 14, 2016 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Alexei Ramirez finishes his White Sox career with 4999 plate appearances. When he's in his 40s and retired, let's sign him to an honorary one-day contract and get him that elusive #5000! He IS in his 40's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) Since we're looking in hindsight, the time to trade Alexei was last winter when the Mets were reportedly interested and the return was speculated to be either Flores or Wheeler. I remember there being a thread on the rumor of Alexei to the Mets and the expectations on a return for Alexei were ridiculous. Again, its all in hindsight and irrelevant now. I wish Alexei nothing but the very best and I really hope SD signs him over Desmond. Maybe Alexei can mentor Amarista. Soxtalk was pretty split on either trading him coming off a decent season or keeping him. Can always re-visit the thread to see who was right. Just pretty odd that the Sox got nothing for him when they could have and also Samardzija . Lost opportunities really seem to be a theme that hurts the Sox even though we can never know what they would have received back for either . Good luck Alexei thanks for the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) Gonna guess 1/6.5m w/ 1m worth of incentives Terms haven't been disclosed yet other than it being a 1 year deal with an option year. I guessed long ago if the Sox were to resign him, which I didn't think they'd do, it would be in the 3-5M range and I'll stick to that with the Padres if it ever gets disclosed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Thanks for some spectacular plays and the ability to run out there day after day, Alexei! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) Thanks for the year of Grand Slams Alexei. That Monday afternoon makeup grand slam vs. Detroit to clinch the Blackout game was epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 08:57 PM) That Monday afternoon makeup grand slam vs. Detroit to clinch the Blackout game was epic. Yes it was. I recall finding a seat on craigslist on lunch, taking the rest of the day off and losing my s*#t when Lexi launched that slam. A no doubter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) This saddens me. You can jump on Greg for his opinions on this but here they are. ... We just had a nice upgrade at third and second and kind of nullify it with this move. Why not sign Lexi for one year?? We take a hit offensively now at ss and it's not as if Saladino is a certain Luis Aparicio defensively. You guys can educate me but is Saladino a SURE BET to be a defensive dandy at short? Lexi had some pop in his bat. We're going to miss him, folks, you wait and see. Infield just took a severe hit. Unless Lexi truly is about 44 years old this makes NO SENSE for a contender. One year 5-6 million and Lexi with a lot to prove. Hope Saladino can handle the pressure. Yes, Lexi booted a lot of grounders but he was not a defensive liability and could stroke a key hit or two. Good for Lexi though. He won't have to battle the cold weather of April/May. Edited January 15, 2016 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I love me some Alexei, and I will miss him. But it was time to move on. Alexei isn't the most intelligent baseball player of all time, and he's the type of guy the Sox need to shed themselves of to play winning baseball. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Alexei raked for the Pads in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 04:35 AM) I love me some Alexei, and I will miss him. But it was time to move on. Alexei isn't the most intelligent baseball player of all time, and he's the type of guy the Sox need to shed themselves of to play winning baseball. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Alexei raked for the Pads in 2016. Only reason to not sign him to a one year deal (bargain) is if he truly is over 40. He does look kinda old in the face lending some doubt. Nobody can deny the team is weaker without Lexi right now. SS took a hit today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 04:36 AM) Only reason to not sign him to a one year deal (bargain) is if he truly is over 40. He does look kinda old in the face lending some doubt. Nobody can deny the team is weaker without Lexi right now. SS took a hit today. I think Saladino will have a higher WAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 04:41 AM) I think Saladino will have a higher WAR I hope you are right. You are a thoroughly knowledgeable fan. Don't you see the real possibility Saladino will choke and be miserable defensively at the key position of ss? Not everybody can handle the pressure. Again, it's not like Saladino is proven. I'm concerned. Again ... why upgrade 3B and 2B for good money and let affordable Lexi walk?? Makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Sure he could flip, but it seems they wanted new blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) Only reason to not sign him to a one year deal (bargain) is if he truly is over 40. He does look kinda old in the face lending some doubt. Nobody can deny the team is weaker without Lexi right now. SS took a hit today. I dont see the Sox as being a weaker team without Lexi. The additions of Frazier and Lawrie outweigh the loss of Lexi and it's projected as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 04:55 AM) I dont see the Sox as being a weaker team without Lexi. The additions of Frazier and Lawrie outweigh the loss of Lexi and it's projected as such. I see it differently. I see it as Sox having worst shortstop in AL Central now. And 2B and 3B could go either way. Hopefully both will rake to go with MVP at 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 05:04 AM) I see it differently. I see it as Sox having worst shortstop in AL Central now. And 2B and 3B could go either way. Hopefully both will rake to go with MVP at 1B. They would have worst SS either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 05:05 AM) They would have worst SS either way If he's in his 30s, he'll have a bounceback year. Minnie's death ruined him. I never understand why fans think certain guys can bounce back (hopes for Dunn back in the day and now LaRoche and many assume Melky will return to stardom) but some guys can't return to greatness (Lexi)? Edited January 15, 2016 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 He averaged 153 games per year. Not bad at all for the modern era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Alexei did right by the White Sox and he will be missed but let's face it, he's slowing down with age. It happens. Alexei's range and arm strength will continue to diminish just like any other aging SS. Saladino should give the Sox more range at SS with a younger arm. The question is will Saladino be able to hit well enough to stick? That's the gamble but then again, so is keeping an aging veteran at a position that relies heavily on range and arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 15, 2016 -> 04:37 AM) Alexei did right by the White Sox and he will be missed but let's face it, he's slowing down with age. It happens. Alexei's range and arm strength will continue to diminish just like any other aging SS. Saladino should give the Sox more range at SS with a younger arm. The question is will Saladino be able to hit well enough to stick? That's the gamble but then again, so is keeping an aging veteran at a position that relies heavily on range and arm strength. I'm telling you, we need an upgrade at ss. Anybody out there?? An infield of Frazier, Lexi, Lawrie and MVP excites me as far as potential. An infield of Frazier, Offensive Black Hole/Defensive question mark, Lawrie and MVP is scary. I thought we wanted to contend. To keep Lexi it would have only taken 6-8 mill for one fricking year. I don't understand lest we sign Desmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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