ranger2004 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (bjm676 @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 07:19 AM) I'm so tired of hearing about posturing, Bob Nightengale, 3-year plans, etc. Let's get spring training started already. Totally agree with you here!!! After hearing what Nightengale said yesterday about the White Sox having no cash left I wanted to puke and turn off the MLB channel, but am so glad that I kept watching and getting a chance to listen to the debate between Chris Russo and Brian Kenney....that was priceless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (midway @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 10:21 AM) Totally agree with you here!!! After hearing what Nightengale said yesterday about the White Sox having no cash left I wanted to puke and turn off the MLB channel, but am so glad that I kept watching and getting a chance to listen to the debate between Chris Russo and Brian Kenney....that was priceless!!! The interview by Nightengale is something sox fans need to get through their head. It's on MLB.com to hear it for yourself. When he says "the white sox say they are out of cash" it is a complete lie that is being spun by the sox brass and the media just goes with it. It's not Nightingale who is lying, it is Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is swimming in cash and chooses not to spend it. It should not be our role as fans to be fiscal watchdogs....well, maybe we should be watchdogs in the sense that we demand that Reinsdorf SPEND not save money on this team. This has been proclaimed as the small window of opportunity to go for it before JR dies and so far it is a half-arse attempt. When the half-arse attempt fails, yes, sox can go cheap and blow it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (Julius @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) The interview by Nightengale is something sox fans need to get through their head. It's on MLB.com to hear it for yourself. When he says "the white sox say they are out of cash" it is a complete lie that is being spun by the sox brass and the media just goes with it. It's not Nightingale who is lying, it is Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is swimming in cash and chooses not to spend it. It should not be our role as fans to be fiscal watchdogs....well, maybe we should be watchdogs in the sense that we demand that Reinsdorf SPEND not save money on this team. This has been proclaimed as the small window of opportunity to go for it before JR dies and so far it is a half-arse attempt. When the half-arse attempt fails, yes, sox can go cheap and blow it up. Our role as fiscal watchdogs? Lmao, who gets to tell you how to spend your money? As it stands the sox have a 123M payroll, and you are acting like they have refused to spend a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (Julius @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) The interview by Nightengale is something sox fans need to get through their head. It's on MLB.com to hear it for yourself. When he says "the white sox say they are out of cash" it is a complete lie that is being spun by the sox brass and the media just goes with it. It's not Nightingale who is lying, it is Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is swimming in cash and chooses not to spend it. It should not be our role as fans to be fiscal watchdogs....well, maybe we should be watchdogs in the sense that we demand that Reinsdorf SPEND not save money on this team. This has been proclaimed as the small window of opportunity to go for it before JR dies and so far it is a half-arse attempt. When the half-arse attempt fails, yes, sox can go cheap and blow it up. Just like they've blown it up so many times in the past 15 years, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Julius @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 07:30 PM) The interview by Nightengale is something sox fans need to get through their head. It's on MLB.com to hear it for yourself. When he says "the white sox say they are out of cash" it is a complete lie that is being spun by the sox brass and the media just goes with it. It's not Nightingale who is lying, it is Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is swimming in cash and chooses not to spend it. It should not be our role as fans to be fiscal watchdogs....well, maybe we should be watchdogs in the sense that we demand that Reinsdorf SPEND not save money on this team. This has been proclaimed as the small window of opportunity to go for it before JR dies and so far it is a half-arse attempt. When the half-arse attempt fails, yes, sox can go cheap and blow it up. i really like your post, and ref the bold, it can be done by not going to the games. that seems to be the only way to get his attention. this way, the sox owners will have to go and invest more, instead of the token amount they spend 120 mil. Edited February 13, 2016 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) i really like your post, and ref the bold, it can be done by not going to the games. that seems to be the only way to get his attention. this way, the sox owners will have to go and invest more, instead of the token amount they spend 120 mil. Not sure that is true. Sox attendance has dropped from 24,000+ to 21,000 + the last 5 years. If revenue( TV +) is up and attendance is down there may not be a big enough incentive to spend more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) Not sure that is true. Sox attendance has dropped from 24,000+ to 21,000 + the last 5 years. If revenue( TV +) is up and attendance is down there may not be a big enough incentive to spend more money. you may have a point, i think there has to be a fine line there. esp in not max the profit from attendance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) i really like your post, and ref the bold, it can be done by not going to the games. that seems to be the only way to get his attention. this way, the sox owners will have to go and invest more, instead of the token amount they spend 120 mil. How much do they have to spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 09:46 PM) Any of these trade suggestions realistic? Think they get another bat before season starts? I would agree that as it stands now, they are more inclined to deal for a bat than sign one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) Bucket, if you had to guess, do you see them making another move? Obviously FAs like Desmond, Fowler, Jackson, etc or even a trade that would fill the void in RF... I do think they'll add but how impact the bat ends up being is unknown. They still have valued targets out there and they are working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Thanks for keeping us in the loop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 04:19 PM) I would agree that as it stands now, they are more inclined to deal for a bat than sign one. Thanks bucket. You just confirmed what I've been suspecting since before Cespedes signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Thanks bucket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 10:21 PM) I do think they'll add but how impact the bat ends up being is unknown. They still have valued targets out there and they are working on it. and then i would definitely be 1 really happy camper. now all i have to do is wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 10:19 PM) I would agree that as it stands now, they are more inclined to deal for a bat than sign one. Due to shortage of money? I really think a Petricka and prospect for Jennings trade makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Considering Baltimore apparently has what it takes for Jay Bruce, why do I feel like that's who we are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) Due to shortage of money? I really think a Petricka and prospect for Jennings trade makes sense No not necessarily. In this landscape with all things being equal, a trade would be the preferred mode of acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 13, 2016 -> 06:26 PM) No not necessarily. In this landscape with all things being equal, a trade would be the preferred mode of acquisition. Is Desmond Jennings an obvious name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Just get this over with FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I love the "drops from the bucket" we get. Our resident insider here at Soxtalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Can anyone here provide a definitive answer to the question: Who is the better fielding SS, Saladino or Desmond, and by what degree? This thread has over 50 pages, but it seems to contain a lot of conjecture, with no real assessment of the comparative defensive of the two players. Do the Sox really want to spend money and a draft pick, to acquire a SS, who is not as good defensively as a young, inexpensive rookie, especially with Anderson waiting in the wings? As has been argued, the middle of the infield defense has probably been downgraded already, with Lawrie, in place of Sanchez. Downgrading the defense at SS may be to the team's detriment, even if Desmond puts up his career average offensive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 14, 2016 -> 07:37 AM) Can anyone here provide a definitive answer to the question: Who is the better fielding SS, Saladino or Desmond, and by what degree? This thread has over 50 pages, but it seems to contain a lot of conjecture, with no real assessment of the comparative defensive of the two players. Do the Sox really want to spend money and a draft pick, to acquire a SS, who is not as good defensively as a young, inexpensive rookie, especially with Anderson waiting in the wings? As has been argued, the middle of the infield defense has probably been downgraded already, with Lawrie, in place of Sanchez. Downgrading the defense at SS may be to the team's detriment, even if Desmond puts up his career average offensive numbers. Tough to say, because we haven't seen a lot of Saladino at SS. But he is solid. Desmond will make some spectacular plays and has a really great arm. It's the offensive part of his game that makes Desmond attractive, but you brought up several valid points for not signing Desmond, and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 14, 2016 -> 06:37 AM) Can anyone here provide a definitive answer to the question: Who is the better fielding SS, Saladino or Desmond, and by what degree? This thread has over 50 pages, but it seems to contain a lot of conjecture, with no real assessment of the comparative defensive of the two players. Do the Sox really want to spend money and a draft pick, to acquire a SS, who is not as good defensively as a young, inexpensive rookie, especially with Anderson waiting in the wings? As has been argued, the middle of the infield defense has probably been downgraded already, with Lawrie, in place of Sanchez. Downgrading the defense at SS may be to the team's detriment, even if Desmond puts up his career average offensive numbers. Saladino is probably the better defender. Desmond is the better player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I love when bucket drops by but I always get so nervous it will end up like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Boring weekend for FA rumors. I can't find any new write-ups on Desmond, Fowler, Gallardo or Jackson. Booooooring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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