Bob Sacamano Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 If they got Fowler and Desmond, what would be the lineup? 1. Eaton CF 2. Fowler RF/LF 3. Abreu 1B/DH 4. Frazier 3B 5. Desmond SS 6. Cabrera LF/RF 7. Lawrie 2B 8. LaRoche/Garcia DH/1B/RF 9. Catching platoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Caulfield my god why the hell are you talking about what the royals should have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) If they got Fowler and Desmond, what would be the lineup? 1. Eaton CF 2. Fowler RF/LF 3. Abreu 1B/DH 4. Frazier 3B 5. Desmond SS 6. Cabrera LF/RF 7. Lawrie 2B 8. LaRoche/Garcia DH/1B/RF 9. Catching platoon Not sure fowler + Desmond is a real possibility. Surrendering your draft for two marginal players is ill advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Caulfield my god why the hell are you talking about what the royals should have done. Because Lyle Mouton for gods sakes. Lyle. Mouton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) In the same thread you started which mentioned signing Desmond and /or Jackson as a better option than Cespedes, with both those players still available, you now say the Sox are stuck at the kiddie table because they didn't overpay for Cespedes. Of course in another thread you say overpaying for a free agent , by a team with a two year window, (and you have stated several times the White Sox have a 2 year window)is not smart. What do the Sox have to do to get you to buy season tickets? Just the feeling of being excited about the White Sox and then being let down...has nothing to do with Cespedes specifically. Nobody thinks the Cespedes deal is a good one for any team but the Mets. I will be perfectly content with Jackson and Desmond, warts and all. Fowler, no. And we should have learned at least one thing these last two weeks, that it's much better to go after players who really want to be here...Fowler's heart is still on the Northside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) Their only choice left is the White Sox, sounds somewhat familiar... Without knowing what was offered for Q, it's impossible to say. Was the return going to be similar to Miller's or was that a one-time situation where the DBacks' front office was already quite familiar with him and bound and determined to get their guy come hell or high water? Somehow I have a feeling the offer isn't lining up with Top 10-20 mlb pitcher statistically. If Sox can't get a Miller/Smarj return for Q they should resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Caulfield my god why the hell are you talking about what the royals should have done. Because Dick Allen keeps taking quotes and applying them out of context...from my one long thread written about how the White Sox used to excel in an area the Royals now excel in. And because it's interesting as a baseball fan to imagine what each and every team should do. Never mind. From now on every single post will be about Desmond and Jackson until they're off the board so that he's no longer confused. I can do the same thing as Thad Bosley with his 35 years thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:41 AM) Not sure fowler + Desmond is a real possibility. Surrendering your draft for two marginal players is ill advised. I was just tossing it out there since someone suggested it and it was fun putting that together. Realistically it would be Desmond and Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) Because Lyle Mouton for gods sakes. Lyle. Mouton. And your choice for improving the club or you prefer wasting posts in attempts to mock? You should be proud, you've also got Dick Allen emulating you but he adds four names. Better effort on his part, and he varies them randomly. Ubaldo Jimenez. John Danks. Gordon Beckham. Don Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) I was just tossing it out there since someone suggested it and it was fun putting that together. Realistically it would be Desmond and Jackson. I don't think that's realistic either. Can't see them spending that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hence the reason for this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) And your choice for improving the club or you prefer wasting posts in attempts to mock? You should be proud, you've also got Dick Allen emulating you but he adds four names. Better effort on his part, and he varies them randomly. Ubaldo Jimenez. John Danks. Gordon Beckham. Don Cooper. I will mock any and all of your nonsensical posts that have zero to do with the topic at hand. If you want to join a circle jerk for Royals, they have their own forums. Dick Allen doesn't emulate me, he is just as annoyed with your non sequitur bulls*** as anyone else on this site. It isn't just mods and admins. And for the record, Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn are still employed by the white sox. Just an FYi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) And your choice for improving the club or you prefer wasting posts in attempts to mock? You should be proud, you've also got Dick Allen emulating you but he adds four names. Better effort on his part, and he varies them randomly. Ubaldo Jimenez. John Danks. Gordon Beckham. Don Cooper. No the reason I add names is because I have noticed you randomly throw names out in a post that have nothing to do with your post. Usually 3. I figured it was like the contest they have in between innings at the park where they give someone20 seconds to name as many cereals or other items, and then have a player on the board do the same thing, and if they get more than the player they get.a prize. Usually you throw 3 names out there, so I went with 4 for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 09:54 AM) I don't think that's realistic either. Can't see them spending that much. What do you think these guys get? I think we could get Jackson for something like 2/$17M. Not sure how many years Desmond will want or get, but I don't see him getting more than a $15M AAV. If we structured right, both could be had for around $20M or so. Can't believe that's much more (if at all) than they were offering Cespedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) No the reason I add names is because I have noticed you randomly throw names out in a post that have nothing to do with your post. Usually 3. I figured it was like the contest they have in between innings at the park where they give someone20 seconds to name as many cereals or other items, and then have a player on the board do the same thing, and if they get more than the player they get.a prize. Usually you throw 3 names out there, so I went with 4 for the win. I think caulfield just annointed us as besties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Tim Anderson & Adam LaRoche for Carlos Gonzalez. Sign Ian Desmond 3/40. Sign Doug Fister 1/8. Adds 27 million to '16 payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:06 AM) Tim Anderson & Adam LaRoche for Carlos Gonzalez. Not to be a dick, but f*** no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I would like any of the Rockies outfielders available, but not at the expense of Anderson. Cargo comes with a 37M bill, that has to offset some of the worth of the prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) I will mock any and all of your nonsensical posts that have zero to do with the topic at hand. If you want to join a circle jerk for Royals, they have their own forums. Dick Allen doesn't emulate me, he is just as annoyed with your non sequitur bulls*** as anyone else on this site. It isn't just mods and admins. And for the record, Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn are still employed by the white sox. Just an FYi Fine. I'll leave. At least my Jackson and Desmond predictions will stand the test of time. Dick Allen can find a new group of fans to whine about and leave me alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) Fine. I'll leave. At least my Jackson and Desmond predictions will stand the test of time. Dick Allen can find a new group of fans to whine about and leave me alone. At least stay and explain this because I have no idea what this means. Did something come true of these predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I have seen so many trade proposals which include Tim Anderson, yet the pick the Sox got for Shark is sacred to many. Is it now fair to say that holding on to him wasn't so dumb after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) I have seen so many trade proposals which include Tim Anderson, yet the pick the Sox got for Shark is sacred to many. Is it now fair to say that holding on to him wasn't so dumb after all? Agree I'd rather keep the more the more polished prospect than the future prospect that is a draft pick if we have to choose between one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 10:07 AM) Not to be a dick, but f*** no. If Cespedes on an open market is worth 3/75, a two year Cargo deal would have to be worth at the absolute very least 50 million. If you view the 13 million due to LaRoche as completely sunk it means the Sox would be acquiring Cargo for 2/24 (he is due 37). I would trade the rights to pay Tim Anderson for 25 million dollars, assuming that Hahn has budget constraints. Edited January 23, 2016 by GREEDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) I have seen so many trade proposals which include Tim Anderson, yet the pick the Sox got for Shark is sacred to many. Is it now fair to say that holding on to him wasn't so dumb after all? it is how one will look at it. the fans has no choice but to make the best of it. but the rtn on last yr deadline vs the unknown talent, plus the development, plus the yrs if the org can see any positive results.... that is how i will look at it. what was on the table at the deadline last yr???? we as fans do not have that answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) What do you think these guys get? I think we could get Jackson for something like 2/$17M. Not sure how many years Desmond will want or get, but I don't see him getting more than a $15M AAV. If we structured right, both could be had for around $20M or so. Can't believe that's much more (if at all) than they were offering Cespedes. hell, lawrie, if i am looking at the right one, he is 26 going on 27.... give him 2 yrs to put some monster stats and he will be sitting pretty in the next turn-around in fa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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