caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/mlb-best-a...s-nationals-mlb Cubs 1, Mets 2, Indians 4, Tigers 21, Royals 22, Twins 25 (but Berrios/Stewart on the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The cubs have a solid rotation 1-5 but I would still say the Mets have the best rotation and should be #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 05:13 AM) http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/mlb-best-a...s-nationals-mlb Cubs 1, Mets 2, Indians 4, Tigers 21, Royals 22, Twins 25 (but Berrios/Stewart on the way) Are you referencing the same Kohl Stewart that's striking out less than 5 per 9 in high A? Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) Are you referencing the same Kohl Stewart that's striking out less than 5 per 9 in high A? Lol! No kidding, Stewart looks like a bust thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 06:54 AM) Are you referencing the same Kohl Stewart that's striking out less than 5 per 9 in high A? Lol! I'm not, USA Today is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 That 1.5 K/BB ratio, so elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:07 AM) That 1.5 K/BB ratio, so elite http://twinsdaily.com/topic/19651-nice-read-on-kohl-stewart/ The same story we heard on Beck. Working on sinking two-seam fastball, getting groundballs and keeping pitch counts lower... Here's another on the same subject... http://twinsdaily.com/topic/10905-kohl-stewart-68-k9/ Edited January 26, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:12 AM) http://twinsdaily.com/topic/19651-nice-read-on-kohl-stewart/ The same story we heard on Beck. Working on sinking two-seam fastball, getting groundballs and keeping pitch counts lower... Here's another on the same subject... http://twinsdaily.com/topic/10905-kohl-stewart-68-k9/ Spin that any way you'd like, but Spencer Adams had better numbers across the board at High A last season...and he was a year younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 05:13 AM) http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/mlb-best-a...s-nationals-mlb Cubs 1, Mets 2, Indians 4, Tigers 21, Royals 22, Twins 25 (but Berrios/Stewart on the way) How are the Cubs #1? Mets have Syndergaard, Harvey, de Grom, Matz, and Wheeler? I don't even know if I'd take the Cubs rotation over the Sox at this point. Sale and Arrieta is a wash. Quintana and Lester is a wash. I think I'll take Rodon over Lackey. Hendricks is probably better than Danks/Johnson but Hammel blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The cubs, wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'd put the Indians rotation #2 behind the Mets. Carrasco and Salazar are as underrated as Quintana is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/31101/adam-warren Warren's line was pretty solid with the Yankees last year...maybe they're also accounting for depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The Cubs have a very nice rotation, especially for the NL, but it's definitely high risk IMO. Arrieta had a 90 innings increase last year, which screams trouble. Lackey is 37 and his ERA was a good 0.8 runs lower than his FIP. Even Lester is due for some regression in the very near future. Even if their big 3 maintain their production for the most part, I have hard time arguing the Cubs have a better rotation than the Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Mets have Colon for insurance too, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'd take our rotation over the Cubs' any day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:03 AM) I'd take our rotation over the Cubs' any day... This, especially if Fulmer replaces Danks at some point in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:25 AM) Spin that any way you'd like, but Spencer Adams had better numbers across the board at High A last season...and he was a year younger. Any time you're drafted top five to ten, you tend to get the benefit of the doubt...unless you're Carson Fulmer apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:05 AM) This, especially if Fulmer replaces Danks at some point in the near future. As excited as I am to see him in our rotation, I want him in the minors for 16 (MAYBE a bullpen stint in September if we need an extra arm for a playoff push). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 As others stated, the Mets are also clearly the best rotation in baseball. Harvey/DeGrom/Syndergaard/Matz/Colon or Niese... nobody else can come close to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) As others stated, the Mets are also clearly the best rotation in baseball. Harvey/DeGrom/Syndergaard/Matz/Colon or Niese... nobody else can come close to that. They traded Niese for Neil Walker. But they have Wheeler coming back at some point which is another young exciting arm better than Niese so your point still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Mets easily have the best, they have 3 guys who can be #1's plus Matz who may also very well be a ace or #2-#3 and Wheeler who was thought of as Harvey's #2 at one point and even an ace earlier I do like where the Sox are headed though, Sale/Q/Rodon is a filthy trio featuring the nastiest pitcher in the league, a criminally underrated #2, and Rodon who may develop into an ace. Danks is still solid on his best days, but hopefully Erik Johnson pans out like he was supposed to and Fulmer remains a top end starter. I think our Sox may have the best rotation in the MLB in 2017 with Sale/Fulmer/Q/Johnson/Rodon, now if only we had a franchise C to along with that Yes, Navarro and Avila behind the dish worries me that our pitching will slightly decline since Flowers called such a great game for Sale and his familiarity with the staff No, I don't think CWS are legitimate contenders in the toughest division in 2016 baseball with KC and DET as obvious favorites 2017 on the other hand has me excited with this rotation and Abreu, Lawrie, Frazier, Melky, and Eaton all under contract with Anderson coming up and hopefully Avi panning out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:57 AM) Mets have Colon for insurance too, right? And for consumption of leftover pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'm really hesitant to rank our rotation until I see Erik Johnson pitch for a couple months first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:28 AM) How are the Cubs #1? Mets have Syndergaard, Harvey, de Grom, Matz, and Wheeler? I don't even know if I'd take the Cubs rotation over the Sox at this point. Sale and Arrieta is a wash. Quintana and Lester is a wash. I think I'll take Rodon over Lackey. Hendricks is probably better than Danks/Johnson but Hammel blows. Agreed. Mets should be #1, easily. QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:32 AM) I'd put the Indians rotation #2 behind the Mets. Carrasco and Salazar are as underrated as Quintana is. No one is as underrated as Quintana. But they're in the same category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I agree with everyone here. It's Mets, and Mets by a wide margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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