BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 07:29 AM) They would almost definitely be trading Hammel to free up money QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) So that means the Cubs would have to make two trades to fit him in. Seems unlikely, especially if someone moves on him soon. Good points guys. One idea could be a three way trade between the Rockies, cubs and and Rays. I know its alot of moving parts but something like the Rockies get Hamels, cubs get Odorizzi, Rays get Soler/Dickerson. Given the cubs payroll situation and the likelihood they would need to move some salary to help with taking on Fowler's salary to leave some payroll space for future moves, I'm really doubting Fowler returning to the cubs. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part but it should be easier for the Sox to take on Fowler's salary than the cubs, at least at this point anyway. With just over three weeks to go I would imagine Fowler will have to make his choice soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm getting anxious. I'm afraid we are not going to get anyone. I can't deal with another Avi season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) Exactly. This is a big reason why I would prefer Fowler over Desmond if we are losing a pick, I think he makes the biggest impact just by realigning the outfield D. Plus bumps Melky down the order into a more productive spot. Good point with Melky moving down the order. His lefty bat could help split up the right handed. If it were me I would do the lineup vs RHP something like this... Fowler Eaton Abreu Frazier Melky Lawrie Avila/Navarro LaRoche/Avi Saladino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:24 AM) I'm getting anxious. I'm afraid we are not going to get anyone. I can't deal with another Avi season. It's time I change my signature lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) It's time I change my signature lol At this point, I'd just roll with it if I were you. Might as well keep hope alive. Plus, it'll become ironic and funny at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) I'm getting anxious. I'm afraid we are not going to get anyone. I can't deal with another Avi season. A month ago I was 100% confident Avi wasn't going to be the starting RF in 2016, but that confidence is eroding more and more every day. And that's with one of most favorable OF markets you're ever going to see. Edited January 28, 2016 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) A month ago I was 100% confident Avi wasn't going to be the starting RF in 2016, but that confidence is eroding more and more every day. And that's with one of most favorable OF markets you're ever going to see. Same -- it just made TOO much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) At this point, I'd just roll with it if I were you. Might as well keep hope alive. Plus, it'll become ironic and funny at some point. I was really excited about the kid. It's a shame he's useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:32 AM) Good point with Melky moving down the order. His lefty bat could help split up the right handed. If it were me I would do the lineup vs RHP something like this... Fowler Eaton Abreu Frazier Melky Lawrie Avila/Navarro LaRoche/Avi Saladino I'd keep Eaton leading off due to Fowler's higher K rate, and probably hit LaWhiff 7th. Either way I like this lineup and can see it scoring a lot of runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) I'd keep Eaton leading off due to Fowler's higher K rate, and probably hit LaWhiff 7th. Either way I like this lineup and can see it scoring a lot of runs. I hear ya. My rationale is batting the 6'5" Forwler leadoff and if he gets on ahead of Eaton, the pitcher will be thinking about Fowler potentially stealing second while trying to pitch into Eaton's 5'8" tea cup of a strike zone. As for LaWhiff ( good one, BTW) I was just trying to get a better hitter (Avila/Navarro) to bat behind Lawrie. Problem with that idea is that puts LaRoche and Saladino back to back in the lineup so maybe a 7-8-9 of LaAvi, Avila/Navarro, Saladino would be a better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) I'd keep Eaton leading off due to Fowler's higher K rate, and probably hit LaWhiff 7th. Either way I like this lineup and can see it scoring a lot of runs. I would want the higher K rate player leading off. K's are no different than any other out to lead off a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) I'm getting anxious. I'm afraid we are not going to get anyone. I can't deal with another Avi season. I agree with you, I just don't get the feeling they're going to get anyone else. I really, really hope I eat those words though. Edited January 28, 2016 by Sockin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) I'd keep Eaton leading off due to Fowler's higher K rate, and probably hit LaWhiff 7th. Either way I like this lineup and can see it scoring a lot of runs. I've always hated the "LaDunn" nickname but I like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxSteve Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 09:13 PM) Why do you keep repeating 45 million caulfield? It doesnt even look like he'll get 3 years let alone 3 years for 15 million per. And why does he keep bringing up Desmond? 180 strikeouts and 20plus errors a year for a team that already has too many strikeouts and errors is insane. Desmond is poster child for what's wrong with us. His name should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with the SOX. PERIOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) I hear ya. My rationale is batting the 6'5" Forwler leadoff and if he gets on ahead of Eaton, the pitcher will be thinking about Fowler potentially stealing second while trying to pitch into Eaton's 5'8" tea cup of a strike zone. As for LaWhiff ( good one, BTW) I was just trying to get a better hitter (Avila/Navarro) to bat behind Lawrie. Problem with that idea is that puts LaRoche and Saladino back to back in the lineup so maybe a 7-8-9 of LaAvi, Avila/Navarro, Saladino would be a better fit. Ha, LaAvi, also well played The way I see it The Sox should/would rather have Eaton potentially swinging the bat then walking, as the stats show him to be a much better all around hitter than Fowler (both power and contact-wise). I am not against Fowler leading off and Eaton 2nd, but I prefer the other way around, due to Fowler's high K rate. I'd rather Eaton leads off, gets on and gets himself to either 2nd or 3rd during Fowler's at-bat, rather than Eaton coming up with nobody on and 1 away after Fowler K's to lead things off. Either way is fine really, so I guess we should expect Robin to get it wrong more often than not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) And why does he keep bringing up Desmond? 180 strikeouts and 20plus errors a year for a team that already has too many strikeouts and errors is insane. Desmond is poster child for what's wrong with us. His name should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with the SOX. PERIOD! If it gets reported the Sox are one of the finalists for Desmond, he will agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) And why does he keep bringing up Desmond? 180 strikeouts and 20plus errors a year for a team that already has too many strikeouts and errors is insane. Desmond is poster child for what's wrong with us. His name should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with the SOX. PERIOD! 19 teams struck out more than the White Sox did in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am fine with Saladino and anyone not named Avi in RF I see no potential move where New shortstop and Avi makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) Ha, LaAvi, also well played The way I see it The Sox should/would rather have Eaton potentially swinging the bat then walking, as the stats show him to be a much better all around hitter than Fowler (both power and contact-wise). I am not against Fowler leading off and Eaton 2nd, but I prefer the other way around, due to Fowler's high K rate. I'd rather Eaton leads off, gets on and gets himself to either 2nd or 3rd during Fowler's at-bat, rather than Eaton coming up with nobody on and 1 away after Fowler K's to lead things off. Either way is fine really, so I guess we should expect Robin to get it wrong more often than not Definitely a case can be made for either way. Imo,can't to wrong those those two as #1 and #2 in the lineup. With Fowler being a switch hitter the Sox could go Eaton, Fowler against RHP and Fowler, Eaton against LHP. I like the versatility Fowler would bring to the first spots in the lineup. The idea of signing Fowler just keeps getting better in my mind. Come on Hahn, make it happen buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/692800623406772224 Are they trolling season ticket holders now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Definitely a case can be made for either way. Imo,can't to wrong those those two as #1 and #2 in the lineup. With Fowler being a switch hitter the Sox could go Eaton, Fowler against RHP and Fowler, Eaton against LHP. I like the versatility Fowler would bring to the first spots in the lineup. The idea of signing Fowler just keeps getting better in my mind. Come on Hahn, make it happen buddy. Agreed. I don't have a problem giving up the comp pick for a player that can have a pretty dramatic affect on our run scoring. I really like those 2 guys setting the table, not to mention we'd probably get around 25 HR's combined out of them, or more. If Fowler is really available, and not just waiting for the Chubs to deal Soler and open up CF for him, then Hahn needs to close it pronto. Then look for RHP's off the scrap heap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:09 PM) https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/692800623406772224 Are they trolling season ticket holders now? Nope, just clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 LOL those responses.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 joseph carano @josephcarano 6m6 minutes ago @whitesox @AvisailGarcia I would say "learn to hit ". Ryan Matthew @rypie182 8m8 minutes ago @whitesox @AvisailGarcia you ask him why the sox didn't get a stud free agent OF mbeav @chetlemonrules 46s46 seconds ago @whitesox @AvisailGarcia Tell him to get in the cage Matt Carlson @mcarlson_54 3m3 minutes ago @whitesox @AvisailGarcia why are you still here? Cameron Chodacki @ImDaBaron 6m6 minutes ago @whitesox Trolling season ticket holders now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) Nope, just clueless Apparently even on the phones he needs a platoon Hawk is helping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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