chisox802 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't understand this at all. This is why the Rockies are the Rockies.... I actually like Dickerson and would have loved to see him on the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (kevo880 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Not much given up for Dickerson. Wish that would have been the Sox getting him. Its always alot if multiple pitchers are involed for a position player. Edited January 28, 2016 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) Okay...so you give Parra that money. Dickerson is a better player than Parra and you could have found another reliever for a lot less. This juts totally baffles me (unless they are getting a pretty darn good prospect as well). Over past 2 years, Parra has put up a collective WAR of Always beware when a team is willing to trade a player coming off an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The Sox couldn't beat that offer? Seriously? What the hell is Hahn doing? No, Fathom, I'm not melting down. I'm just genuinely baffled as to why Hahn has done absolutely NOTHING to fix the OF problem the Sox have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) Always beware when a team is willing to trade a player coming off an injury. That has to be it. That is literally the only thing that makes sense coming out of this trade and everything they have done. I wonder if he even passes the physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) The Sox couldn't beat that offer? Seriously? What the hell is Hahn doing? No, Fathom, I'm not melting down. I'm just genuinely baffled as to why Hahn has done absolutely NOTHING to fix the OF problem the Sox have. Sox simply have no resources to trade that aren't important members of the team this year or next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) The Sox couldn't beat that offer? Seriously? What the hell is Hahn doing? No, Fathom, I'm not melting down. I'm just genuinely baffled as to why Hahn has done absolutely NOTHING to fix the OF problem the Sox have. Do you remember how difficult of a time Gillaspie had with plantar fasciitis? It's even more risky for an outfielder and likely why the Rockies signed Parra and traded Dickerson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) Do you remember how difficult of a time Gillaspie had with plantar fasciitis? It's even more risky for an outfielder and likely why the Rockies signed Parra and traded Dickerson. Quentin had a rough time with it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Quentin had a rough time with it as well. Good call, I forgot about Quentin. If the Sox had the DH spot open to rotate the outfielders then it would make more sense for the Sox to take that chance, but they don't. I would imagine this is what the Rays will do with Dickerson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well, if nothing else this is one less place for an OF to go. Hopefully this helps with Fowler or Jackson, if that is what they are shooting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Dickerson, 26, was on the disabled list three times last year, twice with plantar fasciitis in his left foot and once for a broken rib. His foot is healed now. Dickerson became expendable when the Rockies recently signed veteran outfielder Gerardo Parra, giving the club four left-handed hitting outfielders capable of starting. http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_294455...dickerson-tampa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Wow, makes you wonder if we could have offered something like Petricka and Guerrero and gotten Dickerson already. The FO better having something up their sleeves because all of this sitting on their hands while the OF market passes them by isn't go to get this team to the playoffs. You would have thought if nothing else Detroit getting Upton would have lit a fire under them...makes you wonder if Hahn is handcuffed with the payroll as it is? Just very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Dickerson can be great DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm going to guess that Jacob Faria is the ML pitcher going to the Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) That has to be it. That is literally the only thing that makes sense coming out of this trade and everything they have done. I wonder if he even passes the physical. It not always the injury is still lingering. It can be attributes that make him predisposed to further injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:48 PM) Wow, makes you wonder if we could have offered something like Petricka and Guerrero and gotten Dickerson already. The FO better having something up their sleeves because all of this sitting on their hands while the OF market passes them by isn't go to get this team to the playoffs. You would have thought if nothing else Detroit getting Upton would have lit a fire under them...makes you wonder if Hahn is handcuffed with the payroll as it is? Just very frustrating. I think McGee is beloved by MLB teams more than fans think. I know Levine said last week the Cubs thought of him as their potential closer of the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Both clubs will swap minor league pitchers in the deal as well, according to the reports. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14668027...-tampa-bay-rays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 How many OF/DH does Tampa need? Loney, Morrison, Jennings, Kiermaier, Souza Jr, and now Dickerson. Plus it sounds like Brad Miller will see some time in the OF (depending on what else they do at short). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:09 PM) How many OF/DH does Tampa need? Loney, Morrison, Jennings, Kiermaier, Souza Jr, and now Dickerson. Plus it sounds like Brad Miller will see some time in the OF (depending on what else they do at short). Jennings possible trade chip. Lots of teams linked to him already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) Jennings possible trade chip. Lots of teams linked to him already. I could see Loney potentially moved too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) I could see Loney potentially moved too. Yep, Tampa is rumored to be looking to trade Loney. Read it a few days ago, somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) They didn't have a closer. Do now Yeah, but they're not gonna win anything. Why trade a good piece like Dickerson for something you have no need for ATM? There's gotta be a subsequent deal to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Yeah, but they're not gonna win anything. Why trade a good piece like Dickerson for something you have no need for ATM? There's gotta be a subsequent deal to this. Rosenthal mentioned the Rays will save 4M because of this trade so maybe the Rockies took McGee and his salary to get better pitcher prospects for Dickerson. Hard to judge this trade without knowing the rest of the package the Rockies are getting. Edited January 28, 2016 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:48 PM) Rosenthal mentioned the Rays will save 4M because of this trade so maybe the Rockies took McGee and his salary to get better pitcher prospects for Dickerson. Hard to judge this trade without knowing the rest of the package the Rockies are getting. Rockies got German Marquez, nothing special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 05:28 PM) Rockies got German Marquez, nothing special #25 on Rays prospect list. Agreed, nothing special. I think the return the Rockies got just goes to show the limited value Dickerson has due to the plantar fasciitis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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