bmags Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'm fine with losing and more fine after White looked good. But yes, I am fairly concerned we have had 2 drafts without an impact talent. Losing Goldman hurts. I would really like to see Amos become more than a safe placeholder player. Losing is fine if there is flashes of talent (like 2000 bears), but when they are boring and bad it's worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) I'm fine with losing and more fine after White looked good. But yes, I am fairly concerned we have had 2 drafts without an impact talent. Losing Goldman hurts. I would really like to see Amos become more than a safe placeholder player. Losing is fine if there is flashes of talent (like 2000 bears), but when they are boring and bad it's worrying. Yep, this is where I am feeling uneasy. Totally okay with results but damn we have to see some guys that they drafted making some plays here. I will give it some time before I totally start getting into my irate fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) I'm fine with losing and more fine after White looked good. But yes, I am fairly concerned we have had 2 drafts without an impact talent. Losing Goldman hurts. I would really like to see Amos become more than a safe placeholder player. Losing is fine if there is flashes of talent (like 2000 bears), but when they are boring and bad it's worrying. We don't know whether White is going to be an impact player or not. He's coming back from missing a full year and probably still getting back into the flow of games. I would have liked to see him catch one of those deep balls last night, but it's awfully hard to do against the schemes the Cowboys had in place (given the score) versus within the flow of a competitive game. I do agree in re: your comment about Will Fuller, however...but it's only been a few games...let's give it a bit more time. I don't think you can evaluate this last draft yet based off of 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Btw, why the hell did we put down 24-10 from the Cowboys' side of the field with 9 minutes left last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 11:58 AM) Btw, why the hell did we put down 24-10 from the Cowboys' side of the field with 9 minutes left last night? Because John Fox is a very conservative in-game coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) Because John Fox is a very conservative in-game coach. I know...but the defense couldn't stop anything all night. That was clearly a time to depart from traditional strategy based on information available at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 26, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) I know...but the defense couldn't stop anything all night. That was clearly a time to depart from traditional strategy based on information available at the time. Again, this is John Fox and the NFL we are talking about. Processing available information to depart from traditional strategy is not an option. Look how long it has taken to finally get coaches to go for it on 4th and inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Patrick Finley @patrickfinley 18m18 minutes ago Asked if Jay Cutler is the starter post-injury, John Fox said "I don't think there are any givens." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Pretty sure that will be a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Chicago Sun-Times @Suntimes 17m17 minutes ago #Breaking Report: #Bears CB Kyle Fuller headed to IR` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) Chicago Sun-Times @Suntimes 17m17 minutes ago #Breaking Report: #Bears CB Kyle Fuller headed to IR` Just another clown popping out of the car in this circus season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 In other news, there are some reports that Pace and Fox don't see as eye to eye as previously reported. In fact, some of the reports go as far as saying that Pace never wanted to hire Fox (he wanted Bowles) and Fox was forced by McCaskey's (at the recommendation of Ernie Ocorsi who suggested a veteran coach to counter Pace's inexperience). Also some reports that Fox struggles with discipline (evidently that was one of the matters that really irked Elway). Obviously negative stories are going to come up around now and who knows how much truth there is to these reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) Just another clown popping out of the car in this circus season. I read on Fuller that there is more to this. He had been practicing fine and people were wondering why he wasn't actually playing (given how minor the scope was, etc). Even alluded to the fact that Fuller was a little irritated that he hadn't seen the field yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 At what point do Bears question their medical staff and strength trainers? This is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 09:39 PM) In other news, there are some reports that Pace and Fox don't see as eye to eye as previously reported. In fact, some of the reports go as far as saying that Pace never wanted to hire Fox (he wanted Bowles) and Fox was forced by McCaskey's (at the recommendation of Ernie Ocorsi who suggested a veteran coach to counter Pace's inexperience). Also some reports that Fox struggles with discipline (evidently that was one of the matters that really irked Elway). Obviously negative stories are going to come up around now and who knows how much truth there is to these reports. I really think Fox is gone if this season goes as expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 JJ Watt re injures his back, likely to be placed on IR. Back injuries are never good, see Crede, Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) I really think Fox is gone if this season goes as expected Completely disagree. He gets a 3rd year regardless. Teams can't dump regimes after 2 years. It sets you back so much. I also don't expect a 2-3 win season. They'll bounce back and win 5-6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I don't really understand all the hand wringing over the Bears. The majority of their fans are either Cubs or Sox fans. The Cubs tanked for several years. There are many Sox fans who want the Sox to do the same. The media seems to be totally on board for that type of tear down. The Bears have dumped most of their high priced talent and older players, yet people can't deal with them losing. That said, it's brutal to watch at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) Completely disagree. He gets a 3rd year regardless. Teams can't dump regimes after 2 years. It sets you back so much. I also don't expect a 2-3 win season. They'll bounce back and win 5-6 games. Yep. Fox is going nowhere. Honestly it would be ridiculous to fire him after two seasons with the state of the org being what it was when Fox and Pace came on board. The thing that worries me the most is that you get the sense that their initial plan has gone totally off course of what they anticipated. How is an inexperienced GM going to handle so many failed results with his decisions so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) I really think Fox is gone if this season goes as expected There is no way you fire a guy brought in to rebuild in the middle of the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 08:34 AM) I don't really understand all the hand wringing over the Bears. The majority of their fans are either Cubs or Sox fans. The Cubs tanked for several years. There are many Sox fans who want the Sox to do the same. The media seems to be totally on board for that type of tear down. The Bears have dumped most of their high priced talent and older players, yet people can't deal with them losing. That said, it's brutal to watch at this point. Football is very different. Teams this devoid of talent can have trouble building because primes of players are so much shorter than baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Watts hurt his back so that Vonn could nurse him back to health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) Watts hurt his back so that Vonn could nurse him back to health. He should of went after Pelas when she asked him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Even John Fox couldn't stomach watching the Bears today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) There is no way you fire a guy brought in to rebuild in the middle of the rebuild. Thought the same as you but Schefter seemed to doubt he's safe no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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