shipps Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Via Adam Tiecher @adamteicher Wow. Chiefs have been docked two draft picks for their premature contract agreement last year with free agent WR Jeremy Maclin 6m DAAAAAAMMMNNNNN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Massie has had some off the field issues. When arrested he had indicated he has been intoxicated for 10 years, but noted he is not an alcoholic. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...rt-on-his-team/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I've long been a proponent of finding a RT so we can move Long back to RG. Glad the Bears saw it that way too. Massie is a solid vet. I see him as a Fred Miller-type of signing (albeit much younger than Fred - just similar type of expectations). It's nice that we have Trevathan and Massie during the prime years of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 18 mil for Massie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Way too much for Porter and Massie. Love the Trevathan signing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Way too much for Porter and Massie. Love the Trevathan signing though I mean...when every contract that's being signed is way too much, that's kind of just the market then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 06:44 PM) I mean...when every contract that's being signed is way too much, that's kind of just the market then. Not every contract. Forte's isn't bad. Gipson & Trevathan's are fair. I could add a few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Trevathan signing is for 4 years $28 million. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) Way too much for Porter and Massie. Love the Trevathan signing though Porter was sneaky good last year IMO, when you look at the contracts other CBs are getting, I would say he got a fair deal. Massie I'm unsure of as far as his monetary value goes. He seems to have been an up and down player throughout his career. Hopefully teaming up with Long, who he trains with in the off-season, will push him to be more up than down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (scs787 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Porter was sneaky good last year IMO, when you look at the contracts other CBs are getting, I would say he got a fair deal. Massie I'm unsure of as far as his monetary value goes. He seems to have been an up and down player throughout his career. Hopefully teaming up with Long, who he trains with in the off-season, will push him to be more up than down. Porter was good for about 11-12 games. He's already 30 and often injured. QB's had a 108 QB rating when throwing at him. They could have done better especially for that much money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 @bradbiggs #Bears contract for LB Danny Trevathan short of the $28M range. Total value is $24.5M with $12M guarannted and $5M signing bonus. Trevathan has $1.5M base salary this season with $3.5M roster bonus. He has annual workout bonuses worth $100K each season. 2017 base $2M 2018 base $5.8M 2019 base $5.8M plus $500K roster bonus Trevathan base salaries in 2016 and 2017 are fully guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Trevathan's deal is the best one in free agency so far. That's a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 That deal is borderline criminal in today's day and age of overpaying free agents. Given that info, anyone know what his cap hit would be this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (scs787 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) That deal is borderline criminal in today's day and age of overpaying free agents. Given that info, anyone know what his cap hit would be this year? 6.35 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/cap/ With the top 51 contracts, it looks like the Bears still have around 40 million left in cap room. They don't have Massie on there, but I just added 6 million to the total. EDIT: I lied. They don't have the Porter, Becton, or Rodgers resigning. So probably around 33-34 million in cap. Still expect the release of Bennett and Rolle which would create another 7 million Edited March 10, 2016 by SoxPride18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Way too much for Porter and Massie. Love the Trevathan signing though How can you say this without knowing the guaranteed money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 11:15 PM) How can you say this without knowing the guaranteed money? My thoughts exactly. In the NFL, it's all about the guaranteed money. Massie getting 3 years, $18M is not bad considering I bet about $10M at most is guaranteed. Though I really do think he'll live up to that contract. With the increase in the cap (and the projected increased over the next few years), $6M for a starting RT isn't bad at all. To note: Travathan only got $12M guaranteed. And I'm sure Porter's guaranteed portion is in the single digits. Edited March 10, 2016 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) @bradbiggs #Bears contract for LB Danny Trevathan short of the $28M range. Total value is $24.5M with $12M guarannted and $5M signing bonus. Trevathan has $1.5M base salary this season with $3.5M roster bonus. He has annual workout bonuses worth $100K each season. 2017 base $2M 2018 base $5.8M 2019 base $5.8M plus $500K roster bonus Trevathan base salaries in 2016 and 2017 are fully guaranteed. What are we missing here? Does the rest of the league think he was overrated? That seems like a steal? On a sidenote, why the f*** are we backloading the deal? Why, when we have a bagillion bucks in cap space, wouldn't we front load the deal a bit more (I realize it poses some risk if a player stinks, but still, we have tons of cap space). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 10:55 PM) What are we missing here? Does the rest of the league think he was overrated? That seems like a steal? On a sidenote, why the f*** are we backloading the deal? Why, when we have a bagillion bucks in cap space, wouldn't we front load the deal a bit more (I realize it poses some risk if a player stinks, but still, we have tons of cap space). It sets him up to have barely any guaranteed money in the last 2 years. I expect him to be good and play out the contract but most of that $12 million is in the first 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 10, 2016 -> 07:32 AM) It sets him up to have barely any guaranteed money in the last 2 years. I expect him to be good and play out the contract but most of that $12 million is in the first 2 years. really, in year two he only has 2M guaranteed. The way this thing is structured, they can send him packing after two years and not sweat it at all. And they can let him play the entire contract out and it is very affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 10:55 PM) What are we missing here? Does the rest of the league think he was overrated? That seems like a steal? On a sidenote, why the f*** are we backloading the deal? Why, when we have a bagillion bucks in cap space, wouldn't we front load the deal a bit more (I realize it poses some risk if a player stinks, but still, we have tons of cap space). He does have some injury history, but I don't think anything major. This is probably one of the better drafts in recent history for ILB and OLB. Maybe that had something to do with it. Still a pretty good deal for the Bears. I thought he would get more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 05:43 PM) Via Adam Tiecher @adamteicher Wow. Chiefs have been docked two draft picks for their premature contract agreement last year with free agent WR Jeremy Maclin 6m DAAAAAAMMMNNNNN They are appealing it, which they should, because it's complete bulls***. Ignoring the fact that every team does it, it just doesn't make sense. Detroit got hit with tampering a few years ago, they were docked a 6th round pick and forced to swap 5th rounders. SF got docked a 5th rounder and had to swap 3rd rounders. So both teams just lost one pick (5th/6th) and had to swap with the other team in the same round. KC loses TWO picks, with one being a 3rd rounder in 2 months. Atlanta lost a 5th rounder for illegally pumping in crowd noise during games. Cleveland lost no picks for their sideline cell phone use. Clark Hunt has always been one of Goodell's most supportive allies, so it really is weird how the NFL is choosing them to make an example out of. In Troy Vincent's statement he even acknowledges that Kansas City was fully cooperative and had no past history of league violations. So would these penalties have been even worse otherwise? The NFL is wildly inconsistent and they apparently are now going to get to have another legal battle with another franchise because of their absurdity. Good job, Roger! edit: Also, new Eagles coach Doug Pederson was publicly talking about Chase Daniel for weeks leading up to the signing period. Then Chase Daniel signs with the Eagles. Not sure how that's not tampering. Edited March 10, 2016 by ChiSox_Sonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2016 -> 10:55 PM) What are we missing here? Does the rest of the league think he was overrated? That seems like a steal? On a sidenote, why the f*** are we backloading the deal? Why, when we have a bagillion bucks in cap space, wouldn't we front load the deal a bit more (I realize it poses some risk if a player stinks, but still, we have tons of cap space). They expect the cap to go up a lot soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN The details on Matt Forte's deal with the Jets: 3 years for $12 million with $8M guaranteed. Additional $4M in escalators. #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 10, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) They expect the cap to go up a lot soon. The NFL is about to sell online broadcasting rights for a s*** ton of money. This will be a completely new revenue stream that by itself will add a bunch to the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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