Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/orio...i-gallardo.html Orioles will give up the 14th overall pick to sign Gallardo. I'd rather have Latos for $3 million than Gallardo for $$ and a pick. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Does this theoretically move us up in that comp pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) Does this theoretically move us up in that comp pick? I believe it would. I do not see them signing any comp pick guys, so they would have to give up their first rounder, which would move everyone behind them up a pick. of course assuming we don't sign someone who requires us to give up our comp pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The Orioles make no sense. Why not offer Latos more money and get him instead? Gallardo isn't even that good anymore and the pick attached to him lowers his value even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) Does this theoretically move us up in that comp pick? Yes. Once Gallardo signs, the White Sox will have the 27th pick in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Probably removes another suitor for Fowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) The Orioles make no sense. Why not offer Latos more money and get him instead? Gallardo isn't even that good anymore and the pick attached to him lowers his value even more. I thought Gallardo was pretty good last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) I thought Gallardo was pretty good last year? By ERA, yes, but his peripherals are very mediocre. His K rate has been declining for years, and was under 6 last year. His walk rate is not great, and a big part of his success last year was a drop in HR rate, and given that his HR/FB% was well below his career average, that's pretty likely to be an aberration, especially considering he's now in the AL (yes I know he was in the AL this past year but that just makes it seem even more flukey). I wouldn't want to bet a draft pick and some decent money that it was no fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 No doubt the Orioles are desperate for pitching. Can't help but think this potential signing has a Ubaldo Jimenez feel to it. Gallardo pitching at Camden and against those tough ALE teams has disaster written all over it. Re-signing Chen and signing one of the FA outfielders would have been a smarter move than investing 160M+ in Davis. Glad I'm not an Orioles fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 55m55 minutes ago Gallardo/BAL update: Still no agreement, but sides optimistic about completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) If I was a player, I would never be too optimistic about a contract agreement with Baltimore. There is always the physical which seems harder to pass than the bar exam. Edited February 10, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) Probably removes another suitor for Fowler. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/baltimores-...er-opportunity/ Cameron argues that a Gallardo signing would make Baltimore more likely to sign Fowler, because they'd be giving up a less valuable pick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Orioles are in a pretty s***ty state as an org. If I were their GM, I would have started rebuilding. Wieters took the QO, but they if they didn't sign Davis they would have had 2 comp picks instead of one. Now it's looking like they may sacrifice their first round pick along with the Chen pick (if they were to sign Gallardo and Fowler) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: Fowler possible for #Orioles if they complete Gallardo deal. Would be willing to part with second pick, currently No. 29. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago #Orioles also like free agent Pedro Alvarez and #Reds’ Bruce in addition to Fowler, per sources. Might not have prospects to land Bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Wait wha? Alvarez in OF or Davis moved to OF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 04:29 PM) Wait wha? Alvarez in OF or Davis moved to OF? Or Trumbo back to OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: Fowler possible for #Orioles if they complete Gallardo deal. Would be willing to part with second pick, currently No. 29. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago #Orioles also like free agent Pedro Alvarez and #Reds’ Bruce in addition to Fowler, per sources. Might not have prospects to land Bruce. Baltimore's farm must be horrible if they don't have enough to land Bruce. Just a guess but I think Baltimore ends up signing Alvarez after they sign Gallardo. I seriously doubt they trade for Bruce or sign Fowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Buster OlneyVerified account @Buster_ESPN It's expected that if and when the Orioles' deal with Yovani Gallardo is finished, it'll be a 3-year deal in the range of $40-$45m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 All the team needs is for the Cubs or anyone else to sign Fowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 09:20 PM) All the team needs is for the Cubs or anyone else to sign Fowler. You'd really rather have Avi as your starting RF than lose a late 1st round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) You'd really rather have Avi as your starting RF than lose a late 1st round pick? JS is all about draft picks and prospects. Pretty sure he hated the Frazier deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) You'd really rather have Avi as your starting RF than lose a late 1st round pick? Yes, the Sox farm has really taken a hit over the course of the past year. Yes, they didn't lose their core guys but they lost some depth and not having a second and third round pick hurts. While I do think that Avi is a weak spot for the team and he's horribly out of position, let's not forget that he's only 24 years old and has only played one full season in the bigs. Lets give him another year to see where he's at. QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 10:23 PM) JS is all about draft picks and prospects. Pretty sure he hated the Frazier deal. I did not like the Frazier deal at first (Yes, I will admit that I was upset to see Trayce go) but then I came to my senses and realized that the Sox gave up a bullpen arm, a pinch runner and a fourth outfielder (in other words scraps) to get an All Star third baseman. It's a great move for the Sox. Edited February 11, 2016 by Joshua Strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I've decided I'm ok giving up the comp pick. If we sign Fowler and still aren't good, we should have a group of desirable players to move over the next few years that should bring in talent if things go south. Edited February 11, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Thoughts and observations on the Orioles' push for Yovani Gallardo and Dexter Fowler http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles...0210-story.html I had forgotten about the Orioles signing Jimenez and Cruz a few years ago. Going by that, I guess the Orioles could be in on Fowler after all if they sign Gallardo. Really do not understand why they didn't re-sign Chen, just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 07:46 AM) http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles...0210-story.html I had forgotten about the Orioles signing Jimenez and Cruz a few years ago. Going by that, I guess the Orioles could be in on Fowler after all if they sign Gallardo. Really do not understand why they didn't re-sign Chen, just stupid. It just goes to show that fans everywhere can look at their own GMs and say "WTF DUDE! WHY??!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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