GGajewski18 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) Slide looked legal to me. Not a chance. He started his slide way to late. His butt landed on the bag or just past it. That's a slide they are trying to eliminate from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:13 PM) Not a chance. He started his slide way to late. His butt landed on the bag or just past it. That's a slide they are trying to eliminate from the game. Exactly. He needs to slide earlier. Odor had a right to be pissed, but he didn't have to punch Bautista. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Great punch but should be a lengthy suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Another example of the Bautista bat flip posing and bad blood carrying over from last post-season and into the final game of a series. Not sure when/if they play each other again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:42 PM) Another example of the Bautista bat flip posing and bad blood carrying over from last post-season and into the final game of a series. Not sure when/if they play each other again this year. They don't. Played last week in Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 watch the Blue Jays first base coach #60 Owens. He runs into the scrum. Sees that he is outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1 and veers off to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) The Rangers were already my second team, and this just solidifies that. Jose Bautista and the rest of the big Toronto bats are roid-raging douchebags. f*** 'em. That punch by Odor ought to be a .gif. I'd watch that for hours. Edited May 16, 2016 by StrykerSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) Slide looked legal to me. What slide were you watching? Bautista should have been punched in the face for that dirty slide that could have really hurt Odor (see Utley's slide in the postseason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) One scout when Rougned Odor debuted: "The thing I love about him the most is you do not want to [expletive] with him." That's a good scout. — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) May 15, 2016 Jose Bautista should start a support group with Robin Ventura http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rang...ce-rougned-odor Lots of funny quotes from around the sports world on the punch heard round the world. http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rang...-jays-melee?f=r Shortly after Texas Rangers second baseman Rougned Odor went all Muhammad Ali on Jose Bautista's face, his Wikipedia page got an edit. Check it out below. Under "throws," where the hand that baseball players throw the ball with is listed, someone put "a mean clean shot." Edited May 16, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:13 PM) Not a chance. He started his slide way to late. His butt landed on the bag or just past it. That's a slide they are trying to eliminate from the game. I guess I don't know what the new rule is because it looked like he just slid at the base. He didn't go out of his way to get the fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:38 PM) Great punch but should be a lengthy suspension It's funny, he will get a longer suspension because he is a good puncher. They were in a "fight", but if he had wildly swung and just grazed him, it would be much shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 15, 2016 -> 05:39 PM) Odor is a punk, but I love that punch to Bautista's jaw. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Bautista, Gibbons and Stroman (have to find it again) providing bulletin board material for the Rangers “That’s the only reason why he got me, and he got me pretty good so I have to give him that,” he said after the game. “It takes a little bit of a bigger man, I guess, to knock me out.” Gibbons said it was “gutless” for the Rangers to go after Bautista when they did. “The other 29 teams out there, if they’ve got an issue they come at you right away,” he said. “To wait until the end (of the season series) it just kind of tells me something about them.” Bautista admitted he went hard into second, which he suggested was within the boundaries of the code, while the punch was not. “It shows a little bit of the apparent lack of leadership that they have over there when it comes to playing baseball the right way,” he said. “Baseball plays are supposed to be taken care of by baseball plays.” https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/201...as-rangers.html "Zero respect for Odor. Never had respect for him, never will." Marcus Stroman on twitter Edited May 16, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Odor: Drops down on the relay throw and tries to take off Bautista's head. And then punches Bautista in the jaw with a quick right hand. Code ruling: Violation! Some will say Odor's throw was within the guidelines of the code, because you're taught to drop down on a relay throw to make the player slide. It seemed, however, that Odor had intentions of trying to hurt Bautista. Why? You have a game to win. You should be more concerned with completing the double play than trying to exact even more revenge for something that happened last October. Plus, Bautista was already sliding, and he wasn't out of the basepath. If Odor's throw was within the code, then the code is stupid and broken and even more illogical than it already is. It was a great punch, though. David Schoenfield/ESPN http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...-with-blue-jays See? We don't need these pansy new slide rules. Let the boys handle it themselves. Keep the nerds out, this game has always policed itself. — CJ Nitkowski (@CJNitkowski) May 15, 2016 Joe (Sheehan) argued that "nerds" had nothing to do with the new slide rules. I guess I fail to understand Nitkowski's point, although that's what players and former players say all the time. Let the players handle it. Is he saying fights are OK? Because that's what happens when you do let the players police themselves, you get stupid stuff like this, ending up in stupid fights that could have ended in with multiple injuries. Baseball is stupid sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Does anyone find it funny that the Rangers had Bush, the guy who spent time in prison, hit Bautista? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Well, if you're going to have someone drill Bautista, it might as well be a kid with pent up energy for the last decade throwing 97-98 MPH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Odor cut Eaton off and knocked him over as he was advancing on a throwing error last week. He is dirty as f*** and has no room to complain about sliding. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/10/3/9...lide-disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ May 16, 2016 -> 08:54 AM) Odor cut Eaton off and knocked him over as he was advancing on a throwing error last week. He is dirty as f*** and has no room to complain about sliding. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/10/3/9...lide-disgusting He also dropped down and threw from down under at Bautista on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Odor stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 These rules stink. That was a good hard slide. Hate that they got rid of that in the game. Loved the hard takeout slides to break up a double play. Odor was clearly throwing at him (way beyond the typical drop your arm to force a slide). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm actually surprised how pro-Odor and pro-punch people are. But I can't really square thinking the punch was way out of line with how brutal some of the injuries from slides have been recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 16, 2016 -> 09:01 AM) He also dropped down and threw from down under at Bautista on that play. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) These rules stink. That was a good hard slide. Hate that they got rid of that in the game. Loved the hard takeout slides to break up a double play. Odor was clearly throwing at him (way beyond the typical drop your arm to force a slide). Infielders are taught to throw low if a player comes in hard. I was taught that in HS. Everyone knows that. Yes, I think Odor overreacted with the punches, but when Bautista literally landed on the bag with his a** trying to take your legs out when he KNOWS that's illegal, I'd be pissed too. EDIT: Also, I understand Bautista was very upset with getting hit, but you're down one and you slide like that knowing it'll be ruled a DP no matter what? That's incredibly selfish of him. Edited May 16, 2016 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 16, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) Infielders are taught to throw low if a player comes in hard. I was taught that in HS. Everyone knows that. Yes, I think Odor overreacted with the punches, but when Bautista literally landed on the bag with his a** trying to take your legs out when he KNOWS that's illegal, I'd be pissed too. EDIT: Also, I understand Bautista was very upset with getting hit, but you're down one and you slide like that knowing it'll be ruled a DP no matter what? That's incredibly selfish of him. I think I pointed out that they are taught to throw low, however, Odor went lower than I have typically seen an infielder go (like that was about as low as I've ever seen an infielder drop his arm for a throw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Home plate umps have been really bad this year, it is getting brutal to watch at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yeah you really never really see infielders throw from over the top. Especially on DPs at second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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