caulfield12 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Out 8 weeks or longer...for those who didn't read the Pence article in full. Giants now another competitor w/ the Sox on the "outfielder/DH" demand side equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 The Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw are a -425 favorite against the Braves tonight. Not sure I've ever seen a moneyline that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Dodgers DFA Carl Crawford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 11:45 AM) Dodgers DFA Carl Crawford I'd give him a look over Shuck if it were at the league minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:35 PM) I'd give him a look over Shuck if it were at the league minimum. The problem is that he can only play LF, and not even that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) The problem is that he can only play LF, and not even that well. Never mind then, thought he could still play some CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) Never mind then, thought he could still play some CF. It looks like the last time he played Cf was 2008. He hasn't had a positive DRS since 2013. His last Range factor over league average was 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:43 PM) It looks like the last time he played Cf was 2008. He hasn't had a positive DRS since 2013. His last Range factor over league average was 2010. Now you're just embarrassing me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) Now you're just embarrassing me! Honestly, I had to look all that up. Being in LA, I barely get to see the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Carl Crawford made a lot of money. He should enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Saw Crawford plays some against the Cubs. He's done, would be a bad fit for a team trying to improve its offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 5, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) Carl Crawford made a lot of money. He should enjoy it. Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Fwiw, turns out Boston rolling the dice on Moncada is looking much better too. Like they need to ADD to that offense, right? Of course, a team with that amount of resources can have failures from Buchholz, Sandoval and Rusney Castillo without batting an eye. Otoh, just one or two bad (large) contracts has set the White Sox back consistently over the last 20 years or so. Rich getting richer...not that it has helped the Yankees tremendously in this modern era. And the Dodgers/Angels haven't exactly owned baseball, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs. That's also an argument for why (motivated) players on one year deals (or ideally, one year and an option) such as Fowler and Desmond made even more sense...and still would have resulted in some form of compensation, it just would have been pushed back another year. If you have either of those guys playing instead of Austin Jackson, the White Sox are still out in first place, at least for now. The other problem here was the money was spread out so thinly it left only third-tier options like Rollins, Avila, Navarro, Jackson and Latos that were bound to go bust...which is playing out now how most would have predicted/projected in the offseason. Along with Jacob Turner, a bunch of lottery tickets, the MLB equivalent of Micker Adolfo. Edited June 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 37m37 minutes ago Juan Lagares Diagnosed With Partially Torn Ligament In Thumb http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/06/juan...thumb-mets.html … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Carlos Correa made his debut a year ago tonight. Pretty nice stats for a first year. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/correca01.shtml Lindor was about week behind him... http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lindofr01.shtml Edited June 8, 2016 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 12m12 minutes ago Manny Machado receives 4 game suspension and $2,500 fine #Orioles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Cubs acquire Chris Coghlan for Alcantara. I know people on this sited wanted him on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 So Giancarlo Stanton is currently worse than 2012-2014 Adam Dunn. At age 26. Uh oh, hope it's just a bad 2.5 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 08:43 AM) So Giancarlo Stanton is currently worse than 2012-2014 Adam Dunn. At age 26. Uh oh, hope it's just a bad 2.5 months. So do the Marlins. They gave him that huge extension and were counting on him opting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs. Especially guys whose performance is largely leg related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) Its things like this that make you realize you really should just stay the hell away from big ticket free agency and focus your resources on cost-controlled players (via trade) and drafting and development and buying out known commodities good years. Missing on this type of deals can totally set a franchise back where as having a prospect bust doesn't necessarily financially jeopardize your team from contending, etc. You see far fewer teams win because of the game of FA then the other way around. If you are going to be a medium payroller and smaller franchise, you really can't intend on competing unless you really nail it on the draft, development and savy trade equation and than playing a little bit of lotto on shorter term / lower profile FA signings which fit defined needs. This is why the big payroll teams have the advantage. If you look at the salary figures for each team, look at the salaries on the DL. Big payroll teams can absorb it and have other players. look at the cubs. They lose Schwarber, but don't miss a beat because they could spend on Heyward. Without Heyward, Soler would already have been a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:44 AM) This is why the big payroll teams have the advantage. If you look at the salary figures for each team, look at the salaries on the DL. Big payroll teams can absorb it and have other players. look at the cubs. They lose Schwarber, but don't miss a beat because they could spend on Heyward. Without Heyward, Soler would already have been a starter. But there's another bias you're missing - the guys who have the big salaries are also typically older and therefore are more likely to hit the DL anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) But there's another bias you're missing - the guys who have the big salaries are also typically older and therefore are more likely to hit the DL anyway. That would interesting to look at. Who has the bigger salary 26-31 or 31-36? I would put the latter group in the more likely to be injured but not the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) That would interesting to look at. Who has the bigger salary 26-31 or 31-36? I would put the latter group in the more likely to be injured but not the former. Absolutely the latter group. The only way guys stay in the league until they're in their 30s is if they've already had years of success, and the only 26 year olds in baseball who will be hitting free agency at 26 are Harper and Trout. Plus, GMs love signing those contracts that balloon over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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