CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Central on fire. Indians lose for 1st time in over 2 weeks. Tigers now 5 above and Royals 6 above ,500 while Sox are working on taking 4 series in a row. Indians have played 10 more road than home games and with their very good home record they might end up leaving the rest of the division in the dust and become a serious contender for the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Meanwhile, the Sox are only a couple of games over .500 AT HOME. Royals have that crazy split, 10 games under .500 on the road and 16 games over at Kauffman. The other thing to take into consideration is just how bad CLE attendance has been....30th in the majors. Just wait until they start getting 25-30,000 more consistently, they'll be even harder to beat. Even when they've been at the bottom in attendance, they've really had an exceptional home record for most of the past 3-4 years. They get DET and NYY at home before the All-Star break. Their crowds, with CLE just having won the NBA, will really pick up in anticipation of an extended playoff and maybe World Series run. Edited July 3, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 07:49 AM) Meanwhile, the Sox are only a couple of games over .500 AT HOME. Royals have that crazy split, 10 games under .500 on the road and 16 games over at Kauffman. The other thing to take into consideration is just how bad CLE attendance has been....30th in the majors. Just wait until they start getting 25-30,000 more consistently, they'll be even harder to beat. Even when they've been at the bottom in attendance, they've really had an exceptional home record for most of the past 3-4 years. They get DET and NYY at home before the All-Star break. Their crowds, with CLE just having won the NBA, will really pick up in anticipation of an extended playoff and maybe World Series run. So you're projecting how many world series wins in a row for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) Meanwhile, the Sox are only a couple of games over .500 AT HOME. Royals have that crazy split, 10 games under .500 on the road and 16 games over at Kauffman. The other thing to take into consideration is just how bad CLE attendance has been....30th in the majors. Just wait until they start getting 25-30,000 more consistently, they'll be even harder to beat. Even when they've been at the bottom in attendance, they've really had an exceptional home record for most of the past 3-4 years. They get DET and NYY at home before the All-Star break. Their crowds, with CLE just having won the NBA, will really pick up in anticipation of an extended playoff and maybe World Series run. Royals are 10 games under .500 on the road yet 5-1 at the Cell. Fricking joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) So you're projecting how many world series wins in a row for them? The far superior mid to late 90's Indians didn't win one. The early 00's Mariners. 2006-2014 Tigers, etc. It's all a crapshoot. I think it's safe, though, to assume they'll make the playoffs pretty frequently the next 3-4 years. There's nobody to challenge them. Royals will be torn apart after 2017. Tigers and White Sox will have older cores that need to be deconstructed. Twins are a long ways off with pitching and really need Berrios and Buxton to figure things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Remember when the White Sox went like 25-2 and missed the playoffs that year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I think you mean 2010? That was around 25-5 or 26-5, but we started the run that late May/early June well below .500. It was mostly on backs of blowing through the interleague competition, think it was the NL EAST that year. Our record in the AL Central really held us back, vs. the Twins, who dominated us in the 2nd half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Indians released Joba Chamberlain. 2.25 ERA this year. Would be a better option at this point than Albers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 06:49 AM) Meanwhile, the Sox are only a couple of games over .500 AT HOME. Royals have that crazy split, 10 games under .500 on the road and 16 games over at Kauffman. The other thing to take into consideration is just how bad CLE attendance has been....30th in the majors. Just wait until they start getting 25-30,000 more consistently, they'll be even harder to beat. Even when they've been at the bottom in attendance, they've really had an exceptional home record for most of the past 3-4 years. They get DET and NYY at home before the All-Star break. Their crowds, with CLE just having won the NBA, will really pick up in anticipation of an extended playoff and maybe World Series run. So more fans equal more wins. It really was the fans fault the Sox didn't make the playoffs in 2012, and if the fans want the team to play better they need to show up at the park. Thanks for making that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Zimmermann to the DL. 40% of DET rotation out, as Daniel Norris left his start early with an oblique strain and will likely also land on the DL. Means they would have to go back to Boyd and Sanchez, along with Verlander/Fulmer/Pelfrey. That's just not going to work unless they add another pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Wade Davis to the DL. They should have signed Joba and Gorzelanny this past offseason. What where they thinking? Instead, they let Joba go for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Herrera gets his chance to "early audition" for the role he will eventually take over anyway. Five All-Stars out for a significant period of time and counting. Edited July 5, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) Herrera gets his chance to "early audition" for the role he will eventually take over anyway. Five All-Stars out for a significant period of time and counting. Certainly Wade Davis is an all star. Gordon and Moustakis and Cain were not all star performers this season. On the other hand, if we use your definition, if Navarro and Shields collide on a bunt and both get hurt, the Sox can say they lost 2 all stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 From the 2015 All-Star team... Cain, Hosmer, Perez missed more than a week with a thigh bruise/contusion where Butera had to play, Davis and Moustakas. 1-2-3-4-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) From the 2015 All-Star team... Cain, Hosmer, Perez missed more than a week with a thigh bruise/contusion where Butera had to play, Davis and Moustakas. 1-2-3-4-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Jordan Bastian @MLBastian 55m55 minutes ago Brantley is taking BP right now. First BP session on field for him since mid May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Tigers, with 10 straight losses to #Indians, and now down 7-1, in 6th IP, are having emotions boil over with Miguel Cabrera ejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) There were several scouts on hand to see Hill’s first start since May 29. He is on a one-year deal, making him a strong candidate to be traded before the deadline, and he will be in much demand. The Orioles, Red Sox, Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, Pirates and Royals were among the teams with scouts in attendance Saturday. Kansas City is among the clubs with interest in both Hill and outfielder Josh Reddick, who also will be a free agent after the season. Contrary to one published report, the Royals do not have any interest in A’s third baseman Danny Valencia, who played for Kansas City in 2014. Hill’s only real trouble came in the fourth, when he gave up two runs. sfchronicle.com Many teams in on both Reddick and Rich Hill...trade winds? Rangers interested in Erwin Santana... Edited July 6, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Caulfield stop trying to force the opening of trade winds. Jason usually opens the forum a week before the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Okay, KM. Thought I would give it a whirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:05 AM) Caulfield stop trying to force the opening of trade winds. Jason usually opens the forum a week before the deadline I actually agree with Caulfield here. I don't see the downside in having it open. Not like rumors just start right before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:55 AM) I actually agree with Caulfield here. I don't see the downside in having it open. Not like rumors just start right before the deadline. Every year same thing. One week before the deadline KM is new, Caulfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 6m6 minutes ago The #Tigers taking out their frustrations vs. #Indians in a big way, now up 12-2, after being outscored 77-24 in previous 11 losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 Freep Sports @freepsports 3h3 hours ago #Tigers announce suspension of Anthony Gose -- and that suspension is now over. He has been demoted from Triple-A to Double-A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 As far as the Central, If Cleveland takes 2 of 3 in KC this week, it's over for KC. They're done. If KC sweeps which they've managed to do when on the carpet before, they still have a chance. However ... the Royals really have no business being in the race. Gordon is hitting just over .200 right now, about .210. Cain has been hurt. The starting rotation has been awful except for Duffy and I guess Ventura (taking the games against the Sox out of the equation when all the Royals pitchers and hitters have looked like all stars). Soria has really hurt them. He's a very lousy back end of the bullpen guy. Horrific on the road (cept in the Cell where they are 5-1) the only sign of the confident World Champs has been at home where they've still had some magic. They have a streak where they lose eight of 10 again, you can put a fork in their wild card hopes. They're about dead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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