pettie4sox Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ May 11, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) I only hope the gamethreads on Cubs sites look as bad as they do here when the team is losing. Awful day today for the Cubs, but it means nothing. They believe they are the team of destiny. I'm sure this bump doesn't meant s*** to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Yeah two games out of 162 considering their lead won't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 LOL at Zobrist blocking Rodney's arrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Cubs' biggest deal could be Jake Arrieta contract … but it won't be easy http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...511-column.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ May 12, 2016 -> 08:57 AM) Cubs' biggest deal could be Jake Arrieta contract … but it won't be easy http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...511-column.html I will say it now. For that price, (7 years, maybe more, and $200+ million) the Cubs are really smart to let him walk away. This is the part of the Red Sox rebuild that Theo really screwed the pooch on, and that is really bad free agent contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 12, 2016 -> 09:21 AM) I will say it now. For that price, (7 years, maybe more, and $200+ million) the Cubs are really smart to let him walk away. This is the part of the Red Sox rebuild that Theo really screwed the pooch on, and that is really bad free agent contracts. Wait! I thought theo could walk on water.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ May 12, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) Wait! I thought theo could walk on water.... If I'm the Cubs, I'll forgive bad contracts in favor of at least one WS championship. If they don't win this year, there is definitely some room for concern, as I would imagine the Cubs would prefer to not pay that kind of $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 12, 2016 -> 09:21 AM) I will say it now. For that price, (7 years, maybe more, and $200+ million) the Cubs are really smart to let him walk away. This is the part of the Red Sox rebuild that Theo really screwed the pooch on, and that is really bad free agent contracts. He already has given out some bad contracts. The weather in October could play a big role in the playoff run as the pitching and defense becomes the focal point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Cubs fans are really getting their hopes up after this http://terezowens.com/chicago-cubs-about-to-catch-a-trout/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) Cubs fans are really getting their hopes up after this http://terezowens.com/chicago-cubs-about-to-catch-a-trout/ The proposals I've seen about this are hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 13, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) The proposals I've seen about this are hilarious You mean a team that desperately needs pitching wouldn't want Duane Underwood as the only pitching prospect they receive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) You mean a team that desperately needs pitching wouldn't want Duane Underwood as the only pitching prospect they receive? Exactly lol. Every proposal includes Schwarber (coming off a major knee injury), Baez (bust potential is high), and Soler (what has he done in the majors exactly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Liriano should've had Russell rung ump but ump missed it. Next pitch a 3 run homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ May 13, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) Liriano should've had Russell rung ump but ump missed it. Next pitch a 3 run homer. Cubbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Any trade for Trout would start with Bryant. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ May 13, 2016 -> 07:30 PM) Any trade for Trout would start with Bryant. Plain and simple. Still, they don't have the pitching to get it done. Mets seem like a better fit, as they could offer something like Syndergaard, Conforto and prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 For what it would take to get Trout, I don't think it'd be worth it for anyone to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 13, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) For what it would take to get Trout, I don't think it'd be worth it for anyone to trade for him. Yep, it's not like Cubs really need him. If anything, they should keep their trade chips for another ace pitcher under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Rossy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Pirates and Cardinals look pretty good this year...On another note, Hammel is a Cy Young candidate in the NL. Edited May 13, 2016 by soxfan85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hammel has been a great pitcher the first half of the previous two seasons, and then he's completely fallen apart during the second half. Hopefully that happens again this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 13, 2016 -> 02:44 PM) For what it would take to get Trout, I don't think it'd be worth it for anyone to trade for him. Especially when you start looking at all of those $30 million seasons coming up. Not only do you have to pay the guy, but you'd also have to find guys to fill all of the holes you would create to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Signing Jake Arrieta to a long-term deal is the right choice for the Cubs http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/...ore-free-agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ May 13, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) Signing Jake Arrieta to a long-term deal is the right choice for the Cubs http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/...ore-free-agency I'm sure whatever contract extension he signs won't hamstring their payroll (atleast until some of their younger players also start receiving higher salaries), but Jake to me just hasn't looked the same. His average velocity is down (which is supported by PitchFX), although admittingly he does seem to historically start lower. But what I've noticed is just the lack of bite to some of his pitches and his control is off. Even Jake Arrieta at 80% is still an awesome pitcher, although I'd be weary going anywhere over 200 million. I really believe he's a year or two away from major shoulder injury. I know people don't think much of his delivery, but it's so damn unnatural and he only recently redeveloped it. Edited May 14, 2016 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/181983-...er-theo-epstein Here's a long list of at least 10 bad free agents signings that Epstein was involved with in Boston. The major one that sticks out with the Cubs has been Edwin Jackson, and the numbers weren't astronomical, just inconvenient...and it helped to have a veteran presence on those younger/rebuilding teams, no matter how poorly he was pitching, he was always a good teammate/clubhouse chemistry guy. Someone like Ryan Sweeney, once again, "bridge" players to get to your next wave of prospects and hopefully hold their positions competently. If not, you can discard them. Edited May 14, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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