Kyyle23 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Dont know why, but Arrietta just isnt efficient like he was last year. but like Brian said, he is still nasty AF. He just gets wild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Dont know why, but Arrietta just isnt efficient like he was last year. but like Brian said, he is still nasty AF. He just gets wild According to the Fangraphs strike zone stats, he's actually throwing strikes at a comparable rate to last year, but batters are swinging at stuff out of the zone notably less than the last several years. This could be a deliberate game plan on their part - can't hit him so force him to work, or it could be that he's throwing things that are more obviously out of the zone when a pitch does get away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) According to the Fangraphs strike zone stats, he's actually throwing strikes at a comparable rate to last year, but batters are swinging at stuff out of the zone notably less than the last several years. This could be a deliberate game plan on their part - can't hit him so force him to work, or it could be that he's throwing things that are more obviously out of the zone when a pitch does get away from him. That just seems crazy when he is going 5IP with 100 pitches like he has been recently. Im not disagreeing with fangraphs but he just seems like he is overworking this year whereas last year he seemed like he was easily cruising into the 7th and 8th innings under 90 pitches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 01:03 PM) That just seems crazy when he is going 5IP with 100 pitches like he has been recently. Im not disagreeing with fangraphs but he just seems like he is overworking this year whereas last year he seemed like he was easily cruising into the 7th and 8th innings under 90 pitches Your pitch count doesn't get up when players are chasing two strike pitches out of the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Despite what the stats say, Arrieta is not the same pitcher as he was last year. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 05:46 PM) Cubs are calling up top C prospect Willson Contreras. Just never ends for them. He looks like a complete beast. They do an amazing job developing hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 06:18 PM) He looks like a complete beast. They do an amazing job developing hitters. Which current hitters did they develop? Schwarber, Bryant, and arguably Rizzo arrived ready to hit. Who is next? Baez? Everyone else was a free agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 12:29 AM) Which current hitters did they develop? Schwarber, Bryant, and arguably Rizzo arrived ready to hit. Who is next? Baez? Everyone else was a free agent They made some changes to Rizzo and Russell IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) Which current hitters did they develop? Schwarber, Bryant, and arguably Rizzo arrived ready to hit. Who is next? Baez? Everyone else was a free agent They've had some guys who left also. Justin Bour's hitting cleanup for the Marlins and was blocked by Rizzo, The Rangers backup catcher Robinson Chirinos was one of theirs. Anyone else I'm forgetting? Edit: Junior Lake, the opposing CF today, was in their org for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Cubs are 4-6 their last 10 yet gained ground on STL and Pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 26, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) Cubs are 4-6 their last 10 yet gained ground on STL and Pit. Yeah the Central doesnt pose a threat to the Cubs anymore. They got way too far out in front for that to happen, plus the talent just isnt there for those tow clubs anyway. The Cubs are going to have a rougher go of things once the playoffs start. They may ultimately still win it all but they better not think its going to be a cake walk in the post season likes its been in the regular season. The Giants and Nationals will be really tough to beat in a series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 24, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) They made some changes to Rizzo and Russell IIRC Yeah they adjusted Rizzo's hands and bat movement since he's gotten there. In San Diego, he batted more open and held his hands a lot higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 08:57 AM) Yeah the Central doesnt pose a threat to the Cubs anymore. They got way too far out in front for that to happen, plus the talent just isnt there for those tow clubs anyway. The Cubs are going to have a rougher go of things once the playoffs start. They may ultimately still win it all but they better not think its going to be a cake walk in the post season likes its been in the regular season. The Giants and Nationals will be really tough to beat in a series. The Dodgers, Cardinals and Mets as first round opponents is no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Nothing from fathom last night? He must be on vacation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Probably too depressed to post with Bryant becoming a national cultural icon on par with Sandberg in 1984. Edited June 28, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) Probably too depressed to post with Bryant becoming a national cultural icon on par with Sandberg in 1984. A baseball player a national cultural icon? This isn't the 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) Probably too depressed to post with Bryant becoming a national cultural icon on par with Sandberg in 1984. Yeah, Mike Trout isn't even this and he's the best player baseball has seen in half a century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Pretty sure even if the Cubs make it through the stacked NL playoffs, they will get killed by the AL winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Of course, Chicago-native and future All-Star Ben Zobrist has to bail out the Cubs with a leaping snag of a play, doubling off the runner...that's just the way this season is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 J.J. Hoover gets completely squeezed on a Zobrist walk in the 15th. Zobrist scores the tying run as Bryant hits a soft dribbler through the left side for the go-ahead run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 04:43 AM) J.J. Hoover gets completely squeezed on a Zobrist walk in the 15th. Zobrist scores the tying run as Bryant hits a soft dribbler through the left side for the go-ahead run. Hoover is so bad. Check out the strike zone Twitter from this game. Some of the calls vs Reds are comical. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Baez for Nate Jones and David Robertson. Why not? Might as well help the Cubs win a World Series so about 5 years from now the city of Chicago is finally bored with it...unless they have their Braves'-like dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 04:52 AM) Baez for Nate Jones and David Robertson. Why not? Might as well help the Cubs win a World Series so about 5 years from now the city of Chicago is finally bored with it...unless they have their Braves'-like dynasty. Just stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) Damn this Cubs team is a fun watch. Joe Maddon is playing Go when the rest of the league is playing checkers. Edited June 29, 2016 by Deadpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Burdi, Hansen and Fulmer can take the place of Robertson/Jones at a fraction of the cost. They're going to have to do something dramatic to change this team. Paying Robertson that kind of elite closer salary two years in a row on middling teams is absolutely pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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