Quin Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) Lets see what the cubs do in may. Schedule is much tougher. I'd love if they got demolished in interleague play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) I'd love if they got demolished in interleague play. Eh, considering we may have to fight for a wildcard spot this year, it's probably better if the AL West teams lose to them, even if the division does look pretty mediocre to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) I'd love if they got demolished in interleague play. Here is May. Nationals, Pitt, and the Cards. http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/schedule/?c_id...alendar=DEFAULT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) lol that's a joke. Yep, it was freaking ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hawk specifically says anybody accusing Arrieta of using is a disgrace to the game. Hope you're all happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Hawk specifically says anybody accusing Arrieta of using is a disgrace to the game. Hope you're all happy. Hawk is a blathering idiot that should've retired years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Hawk specifically says anybody accusing Arrieta of using is a disgrace to the game. Hope you're all happy. I can't accuse him, but I'm suspicious. His pitches all gained significant miles per hour. This isn't like Cliff Lee, whose stuff stayed the same speed, or R.A. Dickey who learned to control a knuckler better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Kris Bryant of Chicago Cubs not expected to go on disabled list after rolling ankle ESPN - 44 mins ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) Where is this coming from anyways? Just Stephen A. Smith? Or is there actual reason to tie him to PEDs. Whispers amongst other players in the league is what kicked it off. Also, I feel baseball fans as a whole are a jaded "Fool me on, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Cubs will score 50 runs this weekend off the braves? Edited April 29, 2016 by whitesoxjr27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 06:42 PM) Cubs will score 50 runs this weekend off the braves? Nah, Bryant's out and it's cold out. More shocking would be if Braves homer all weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Two K looking for Flowers...nice to see some things don't change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Nah, Bryant's out and it's cold out. More shocking would be if Braves homer all weekend. Freeman says "Suck it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) CB Bucknor is pathetic, just like the Braves offense https://twitter.com/BravesUmp/status/726141827917688833 Edited April 29, 2016 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 This April schedule for the Cubs has bee pathetic. I'm not saying they're not good but I think coo boned record of April opponents is like 15 games under .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 09:16 PM) This April schedule for the Cubs has bee pathetic. I'm not saying they're not good but I think coo boned record of April opponents is like 15 games under .500. Just based on offensive fWAR, there's a 66.6 point difference between Cubs and the Braves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) I don't see these increases from the data posted. If that's what these numbers are supposed to be - increases in velo. His FB seems to have remained the same and his slider has moved up a lot. There was a contingent of us here that loved Arrieta when he was in Baltimore and thought he'd be really good one day. When the Cubs got him, Bosio worked with his slider and he changed some of his mechanics. His mechanics are a lot better than they were in Baltimore and there's been stuff written on it in the last couple years. The other thing is, if his FB velo is constant and his SL has moved up, that could totally be a result of a different school of thought on throwing it. People differentiate between sliders/cutters as if they're totally different pitches. Arrieta usually throws the hard one, which acts like a cutter (and has led to incredibly weak contact), and that's been a huge difference to his game. He still has the old slider, your more typical disparity in velocity with more lateral movement, that he throws in different situations. I don't know, the guy is yoked and has had an incredible turnaround to his career but you can't just say "steroids." This isn't a Mike Piazza situation where he was picked in the 60th round as a family favor and all of a sudden ballooned physically and became the best offensive catcher ever. The guy went from playing for a team with perhaps the worst reputation in handling pitchers and he had to iron out his mechanics against the toughing pitcher division in baseball. Then he goes to one of the games best pitching coaches, made some strides and pitched against some cupcake teams. Where is this coming from anyways? Just Stephen A. Smith? Or is there actual reason to tie him to PEDs. Those increases just took his low velocity from before the trade/demotion and compared them to his highest velocities post trade. Not an exact science obviously, but players dont just add that type of velocity later in their career. No actual tie to PEDs for him, but as stated above "fool me once..." It really doesnt pass the eye test and you cant really fault people for being skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 03:16 PM) This April schedule for the Cubs has bee pathetic. I'm not saying they're not good but I think coo boned record of April opponents is like 15 games under .500. May gets tougher for the cubs. Watch them lose a bunch. I know wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Those increases just took his low velocity from before the trade/demotion and compared them to his highest velocities post trade. Not an exact science obviously, but players dont just add that type of velocity later in their career. No actual tie to PEDs for him, but as stated above "fool me once..." It really doesnt pass the eye test and you cant really fault people for being skeptical. Looking at his pitch numbers, most of his increases came when he was still with Baltimore, not since he got the Cubs. Also interested is that his velocities are down across the board this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It's astonishing how many replay reviews the Cubs come out on the right side of compared to the sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Braves are so bad its unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 About that Jason Heyward contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 1, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) About that Jason Heyward contract... Until money is an object there are no bad contracts with them same as NY and Boston. At this point money is no object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Until money is an object there are no bad contracts with them same as NY and Boston. At this point money is no object. Money may be no object, but to this point teams, even ones with the most resources, have been unwilling to DFA or even bench bad players with huge contracts, so while the Cubs may not be hurt by the amount of money they have to pay Heyward, they can be hurt by being unable to put anybody, at any price, in RF to replace him, for a very long time. Edited May 2, 2016 by HickoryHuskers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 That would be crazy if Heyward played poorly enough that he didn't opt out and actually played out the full 8 seasons in Chicago. Just always expected him to be gone in 3, still assuming that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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