coco1997 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 07:21 AM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/...eeps-struggling What's wrong with Jake Arrieta? So you're telling me Arrieta is not going to have another historic season or finish the year with a sub-2.00 ERA again? You don't say. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited July 3, 2016 by coco1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 07:21 AM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/...eeps-struggling What's wrong with Jake Arrieta? He expects to beat everybody, and he eats a lot of Kale. He also poses naked for ESPN. If I were a professional baseball player and faced him on the mound, I wouldn't be able to help but laugh at him. I just have a feeling that he is going to make a quick dive back to earth, or that he is hurt...just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 08:58 AM) He expects to beat everybody, and he eats a lot of Kale. He also poses naked for ESPN. If I were a professional baseball player and faced him on the mound, I wouldn't be able to help but laugh at him. I just have a feeling that he is going to make a quick dive back to earth, or that he is hurt...just a hunch. He is still 12-3 2.33 ERA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) But his average number of innings pitched (per start) the last month has been closer to 5+ than 7-8 like last year. Edited July 3, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) He is still 12-3 2.33 ERA. I know he is. But, he I believe he will continue to regress. Sometimes, there are times when a player/pitcher is very good for a period of time, then they just regress. I saw that with Contreras. Hell, Loaiza was "great" for a season in 2003. It just happens. To me, when watching him, he just does not look the same. Additionally, when you continually pitch against anemic offenses like the Reds, Milwaukee, and Pirates statistics will probably be a bit inflated. Edited July 3, 2016 by soxfan85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just a coincidence that his regression started shortly after widespread speculation of PED use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 11:45 AM) Just a coincidence that his regression started shortly after widespread speculation of PED use? See, I was not going to go there but you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) See, I was not going to go there but you did. It's a fair question no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Lester rocked. If the Cubs lose today they will be 5-12 their last 17 vs winning teams. How does that happen under Joe Maddon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) Lester rocked. If the Cubs lose today they will be 5-12 their last 17 vs winning teams. How does that happen under Joe Maddon? They better hope the Mets don't earn that Wild Card slot especially if they finish with the best record in the NL. Regardless, going to be a tough road for them to the World Series with teams like the Giants, Nationals, LA, and now the Mets playing good ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Shortest start of Lester's career, more runs than he gave up the entire month of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Cubs are about to become 14-17 vs. teams over .500 this year. Better learn how to beat good teams or it's one and done in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) It's a fair question no? It was my first thought, but I've thought he's been juicing for sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) It was my first thought, but I've thought he's been juicing for sometime. Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/face-it...-been-mediocre/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/face-it...-been-mediocre/ "You're never as good as you look when you're playing your best and you're never as bad as you look when you're playing your worst". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) "You're never as good as you look when you're playing your best and you're never as bad as you look when you're playing your worst". No doubt but at least we can definitively put the best team ever and regular season wins record to rest. If I were a Cubs fan I would be very concerned about their performance against good teams. It's great to beat up on bad teams because that's what good teams do but they are going to need to beat very good teams to win the World Series. Edited July 3, 2016 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) No doubt but at least we can definitively put the best team ever and regular season wins record to rest. If I were a Cubs fan I would be very concerned about their performance against good teams. It's great to beat up on bad teams because that's what good teams do but they are going to need to beat very good teams to win the World Series. Any team going to the playoffs can find something to be nervous about if they want to. Why are the Cubs struggling right now? Dexter Fowler would be an all star starter and he's been out for a month. Their pitching staff couldn't keep that pace up, even if they're still a strong unit. What will the organization do about this? Well they already have brought up a couple guys including Contreras, but that's not going to replace Fowler. The plan therefore is, of course, wait until close to the deadline and see what is available that makes you darn near unbeatable. If Andrew Miller or David Robertson become available, that's a move going for the jugular of the league. Maybe they could consider a starting pitcher, but at the same time Lester isn't going to keep having "worst outing of his career" every time out (although I hope he has one next Friday because i"ll be there to cheer every run he gives up). Basically, they're a very good team that should make a deadline move or two. And is there any guarantee that they'll win the world series just because they're the best team? Of course not, but do that for a few years in a row and you darn well better win one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) Any team going to the playoffs can find something to be nervous about if they want to. Why are the Cubs struggling right now? Dexter Fowler would be an all star starter and he's been out for a month. Their pitching staff couldn't keep that pace up, even if they're still a strong unit. What will the organization do about this? Well they already have brought up a couple guys including Contreras, but that's not going to replace Fowler. The plan therefore is, of course, wait until close to the deadline and see what is available that makes you darn near unbeatable. If Andrew Miller or David Robertson become available, that's a move going for the jugular of the league. Maybe they could consider a starting pitcher, but at the same time Lester isn't going to keep having "worst outing of his career" every time out (although I hope he has one next Friday because i"ll be there to cheer every run he gives up). Basically, they're a very good team that should make a deadline move or two. And is there any guarantee that they'll win the world series just because they're the best team? Of course not, but do that for a few years in a row and you darn well better win one. Let me put it another way. If the White Sox were going through what the Cubs are experiencing right now, 99% of Sox fans would be freaking out. I don't think it's time to freak out if you are a Cubs fan but there certainly is cause for concern especially if Arrieta regresses back to non-ace form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I hope we kick their ass and don't pull a Royals series and fix the Cubs ills. This is neat. The Cubs are acting human and right now it doesn't seem like it's automatic they make the WS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/i...ns-to-deal-with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan85 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 4, 2016 -> 07:27 AM) http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/i...ns-to-deal-with Those imperfections will be hidden for 3 days once the Mighty Reds take the field. Bombs away!! Edited July 4, 2016 by soxfan85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/time-fo...truggling-team/ Morrissey: Maddon needs to be more honest/realistic and less of a perpetual cheerleader for these Cubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) "You're never as good as you look when you're playing your best and you're never as bad as you look when you're playing your worst". That is true, but timing is also everything. All that really matters is that you're not "at your worst" come playoff time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 4, 2016 -> 08:34 AM) http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/time-fo...truggling-team/ Morrissey: Maddon needs to be more honest/realistic and less of a perpetual cheerleader for these Cubs Maddon will bring in some zoo animals, the media will eat it up. The Cubs will win 8 of 10 against the Reds/Brewers and the manager who wears fashionable eye wear and drinks wine in his manager's office will be labeled a genius by the media. Edited July 4, 2016 by zenryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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