whitesoxjr27 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) I woke up this morning thinking the cubs lost. Wrong. Edited April 8, 2016 by whitesoxjr27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2016 -> 10:31 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 40s40 seconds ago Kyle Schwarber has ankle sprain and will undergo MRI tomorrow: The #Cubs expect to DL him 0 retweets 0 likes Thats really hard to believe. Good news for them that its not something worse at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Maybe there's a reason you don't stick a catcher in the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) Thats really hard to believe. Good news for them that its not something worse at the moment. I immediately thought ligaments when I seen the injury. I really didn't think break for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) I immediately thought ligaments when I seen the injury. I really didn't think break for some reason. Those ankle ligaments could be in bad shape but I am not sure they would come out and say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) Those ankle ligaments could be in bad shape but I am not sure they would come out and say that. Isn't a sprain techinically a ligament tear? Obviously there are differences in the degree of the tear, but a bad sprain is still a pretty bad injury. It just doesn't sound so bad. Edited April 8, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Well, there's sprain, strain and tear...with different degrees of severity, calling PTAC. Guess Soler gets two weeks of of pretty much uninterrupted playing time now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) Well, there's sprain, strain and tear...with different degrees of severity, calling PTAC. Guess Soler gets two weeks of of pretty much uninterrupted playing time now? Technically speaking a sprain is an injury to a ligament, a strain is an injury to a muscle. They both have degrees of grades of injury. First degree is an injury with little tearing of fibers. Second degree is some fibers tron. Third degree is most of the fibers torn. There are also clinically disability attributes that go along with those but those are the physical characteristics of the injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Isn't a sprain techinically a ligament tear? Obviously there are differences in the degree of the tear, but a bad sprain is still a pretty bad injury. It just doesn't sound so bad. That's exactly what a sprain is, and while the term itself doesn't suggest it's any more severe than a broken ankle (I think most would just assume it wasn't) there are differences that actually make it worse. I personally know because I sprained my ankle badly last year. The X Ray was clear of any breaks, however the MRI showed several tears to ligaments and tendons. My rehabilition was for over a month and it took awhile to do everyday activities without pain. This was with a Grade 2 sprain that I recovered quickly from. Now, as a professional athlete with top doctors at his disposal who knows how long any DL stinct would be, but even for a less severe Grade 1 sprain Schwarber should be resting for a week or two. Edited April 8, 2016 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) That's exactly what a sprain is, and while the term itself doesn't suggest it's any more severe than a broken ankle (I think most would just assume it wasn't) there are differences that actually make it worse. I personally know because I sprained my ankle badly last year. The X Ray was clear of any breaks, however the MRI showed several tears to ligaments and tendons. My rehabilition was for over a month and it took awhile to do everyday activities without pain. This was with a Grade 2 sprain that I recovered quickly from. Now, as a professional athlete with top doctors at his disposal who knows how long any DL stinct would be, but even for a less severe Grade 1 sprain Schwarber should be resting for a week or two. They can't speed up the healing process. They can however inject things to make the pain less. All depends on the amount of damage to the ligaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) That's exactly what a sprain is, and while the term itself doesn't suggest it's any more severe than a broken ankle (I think most would just assume it wasn't) there are differences that actually make it worse. I personally know because I sprained my ankle badly last year. The X Ray was clear of any breaks, however the MRI showed several tears to ligaments and tendons. My rehabilition was for over a month and it took awhile to do everyday activities without pain. This was with a Grade 2 sprain that I recovered quickly from. Now, as a professional athlete with top doctors at his disposal who knows how long any DL stinct would be, but even for a less severe Grade 1 sprain Schwarber should be resting for a week or two. With how that looked and how he reacted, they will be really lucky if it is only 1-2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) With how that looked and how he reacted, they will be really lucky if it is only 1-2 weeks If it's truly just a ligament injury anything short of a third degree near complete tear should only require a 15 day DL stint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) With how that looked and how he reacted, they will be really lucky if it is only 1-2 weeks The sounded pretty certain that a DL stint was going to happen, which is a minimum of 15 days. They sure don't think it is a minimal strain/sprain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) If it's truly just a ligament injury anything short of a third degree near complete tear should only require a 15 day DL stint. What is the worst case scenario? ACL/MCL Tear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 3h3 hours ago ICYMI: Schwarber going to have MRI on his left knee & ankle today. Javy Baez may not be back right away after getting hit in the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) What is the worst case scenario? ACL/MCL Tear? Those are the worst case because it's a surgery with the rehab time. however, it didn't appear that those were a concern. The reaction after the trainer did the tests didn't make it look like they were concerned about it. It also doubt they would have allowed him to try to walk if they thought it was the ACL. It's pretty obvious almost immediately if someone tears the ACL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 10:08 AM) Julie DiCaro @JulieDiCaro 3h3 hours ago ICYMI: Schwarber going to have MRI on his left knee & ankle today. Javy Baez may not be back right away after getting hit in the head. Probably more MCL for the knee possible meniscus. They will look for the extent of damage to the ligaments of the ankle, possibly the fibular tendons laterally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Obviously I'm not a doctor, but that looked a lot worse than a sprained ankle. Looked like he blew his knee out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 10:24 AM) Obviously I'm not a doctor, but that looked a lot worse than a sprained ankle. Looked like he blew his knee out. Doubtful for the reasons I stated earlier. I don't know the Cubs trainer but as I said it's usually pretty obvious and they didn't react like it. Some players are just more "reactionary" than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) Well, there's sprain, strain and tear...with different degrees of severity, calling PTAC. Guess Soler gets two weeks of of pretty much uninterrupted playing time now? Nope. It sounds like he will still be in a platoon, just with La Stella instead. Bryant can play the OF with La Stella at 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I know nobody cares about my fantasy team, but I had Schwarber as my catcher. Good thing the Cubs signed Fowler eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) I know nobody cares about my fantasy team, but I had Schwarber as my catcher. Good thing the Cubs signed Fowler eh? They still have too much redundancy in their lineup, IMHO, but the depth for now is certainly good fortune. At some point, though, they would probably want to strengthen their pitching and move some of these guys that won't get full seasons in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Doubtful for the reasons I stated earlier. I don't know the Cubs trainer but as I said it's usually pretty obvious and they didn't react like it. Some players are just more "reactionary" than others. He didn't grab his knee at all just saying at first glance that what I thought. Then I seen that he grabbed his ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago A lot of concern within the Cubs organization today about Kyle Schwarber's injury, and there is more concern about his knee than his ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 8, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago A lot of concern within the Cubs organization today about Kyle Schwarber's injury, and there is more concern about his knee than his ankle. As there should be. In general knees are much more difficult to rehab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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