Vance Law Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 2, 2016 -> 06:48 PM) I take that as a big f*** you to Saladino. I guess he never had a chance. Nope. Both will be on the team. Both will play plenty during the season. Whoever plays better will play more. Bizarre fixation, not just in this specific case, but in general with "who's gonna win the job?" and "who's gonna be named the starter?" Whoever plays the best will get the playing time during the season. Opening day is irrelevant. Micah Johnson was the opening day 2nd baseman. He lasted a month. We're talking about a $2 million 37 year old and a guy playing for the league minimum. There's no incentive to play anyone other than whoever is playing best. Rollns should have the job on opening day assuming he shows he isn't cooked. He's done it for a ton of years. He hits left handed. He'll benefit from time off with Saladino playing particularly against lefties. If and when Saladino proves he's the bigger asset on the field on a daily basis, he'll play more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Vance Law @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 04:38 AM) Nope. Both will be on the team. Both will play plenty during the season. Whoever plays better will play more. Bizarre fixation, not just in this specific case, but in general with "who's gonna win the job?" and "who's gonna be named the starter?" Whoever plays the best will get the playing time during the season. Opening day is irrelevant. Micah Johnson was the opening day 2nd baseman. He lasted a month. We're talking about a $2 million 37 year old and a guy playing for the league minimum. There's no incentive to play anyone other than whoever is playing best. Rollns should have the job on opening day assuming he shows he isn't cooked. He's done it for a ton of years. He hits left handed. He'll benefit from time off with Saladino playing particularly against lefties. If and when Saladino proves he's the bigger asset on the field on a daily basis, he'll play more. You missed the bigger questions. Was Rollins brought in to be the starter? If so, what happens if Sanchez and Saladino have better springs than Rollins?? If Sanchez cannot play SS, who is the backup to Saladino if Rollins has nothing left?? Edited March 3, 2016 by SCCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2016 -> 08:52 PM) When the Sox signed Jimmy Rollins it was to be the starting SS. I agree. They use the minor-league contract so that they have an out in case he has absolutely nothing left, which is possible considering his age. But if he can play acceptably he's the man,for the last decade of this organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 03:38 AM) Nope. Both will be on the team. Both will play plenty during the season. Whoever plays better will play more. Bizarre fixation, not just in this specific case, but in general with "who's gonna win the job?" and "who's gonna be named the starter?" Whoever plays the best will get the playing time during the season. Opening day is irrelevant. Micah Johnson was the opening day 2nd baseman. He lasted a month. We're talking about a $2 million 37 year old and a guy playing for the league minimum. There's no incentive to play anyone other than whoever is playing best. Rollns should have the job on opening day assuming he shows he isn't cooked. He's done it for a ton of years. He hits left handed. He'll benefit from time off with Saladino playing particularly against lefties. If and when Saladino proves he's the bigger asset on the field on a daily basis, he'll play more. LIKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Guys let's not act like Tyler Saladino is some kind of big deal. He is on the old side for a prospect and his MiLB record is very spotty. He has some nice skills and we saw that he could pick it at 3B last year, but if the Sox are trying to win this year then they don't owe him s***. I'm already borderline shocked that the Sox seem to be putting him ahead of Sanchez on the depth charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 03:38 AM) Nope. Both will be on the team. Both will play plenty during the season. Whoever plays better will play more. Bizarre fixation, not just in this specific case, but in general with "who's gonna win the job?" and "who's gonna be named the starter?" Whoever plays the best will get the playing time during the season. Opening day is irrelevant. Micah Johnson was the opening day 2nd baseman. He lasted a month. We're talking about a $2 million 37 year old and a guy playing for the league minimum. There's no incentive to play anyone other than whoever is playing best. Rollns should have the job on opening day assuming he shows he isn't cooked. He's done it for a ton of years. He hits left handed. He'll benefit from time off with Saladino playing particularly against lefties. If and when Saladino proves he's the bigger asset on the field on a daily basis, he'll play more. Like ss2k5 said, Rollins was signed to be the everyday SS, otherwise he wouldn't be here. I don't see this as some kind of timeshare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 07:31 AM) I agree. They use the minor-league contract so that they have an out in case he has absolutely nothing left, which is possible considering his age. But if he can play acceptably he's the man,for the last decade of this organization. They a MiLB deal for a couple of reasons. First because they could. Second because the 40 man roster was full, and that way they didn't have to risk cutting someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 03:38 AM) Nope. Both will be on the team. Both will play plenty during the season. Whoever plays better will play more. Bizarre fixation, not just in this specific case, but in general with "who's gonna win the job?" and "who's gonna be named the starter?" Whoever plays the best will get the playing time during the season. Opening day is irrelevant. Micah Johnson was the opening day 2nd baseman. He lasted a month. We're talking about a $2 million 37 year old and a guy playing for the league minimum. There's no incentive to play anyone other than whoever is playing best. Rollns should have the job on opening day assuming he shows he isn't cooked. He's done it for a ton of years. He hits left handed. He'll benefit from time off with Saladino playing particularly against lefties. If and when Saladino proves he's the bigger asset on the field on a daily basis, he'll play more. Yes. Ventura made a lot of changes last year besides that. 3B, DH, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 07:59 AM) Guys let's not act like Tyler Saladino is some kind of big deal. He is on the old side for a prospect and his MiLB record is very spotty. He has some nice skills and we saw that he could pick it at 3B last year, but if the Sox are trying to win this year then they don't owe him s***. I'm already borderline shocked that the Sox seem to be putting him ahead of Sanchez on the depth charts. Honestly, Saladino is pretty much Trayce Thompson. He is a great defender, with a bat that is a long way behind it. He could start, but he is a guy that you would be looking to replace if he was your starter. I think the reason Saladino is ahead of Sanchez at SS is because Saladino can throw from SS and 3B, while Sanchez is a 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I don't understand the reasoning why people want Sanchez to be in AAA again. In my opinion, he's already proved himself there and putting him back there again does him no good. To me, he should either be in the big leagues or be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) I don't understand the reasoning why people want Sanchez to be in AAA again. In my opinion, he's already proved himself there and putting him back there again does him no good. To me, he should either be in the big leagues or be traded. He is an asset. If he isn't going to be starting, he still is needed as depth unless he is going to get us someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) I don't understand the reasoning why people want Sanchez to be in AAA again. In my opinion, he's already proved himself there and putting him back there again does him no good. To me, he should either be in the big leagues or be traded. He's young enough to justify going back down and can still get every day at bats down there. He's fine going back. Edited March 3, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) I don't understand the reasoning why people want Sanchez to be in AAA again. In my opinion, he's already proved himself there and putting him back there again does him no good. To me, he should either be in the big leagues or be traded. There isn't a spot for him in the majors though. Saladino is an ideal utility guy because he can play anywhere on the infield. I don't think Sanchez can play SS but they have been giving him reps at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:36 AM) He's young enough to justify going back down and can still get every day at bats down there. He's fine going back. Also true. Sanchez has been on the radar forever, but he has always been one of the youngest players at each level he has played at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:31 AM) He is an asset. If he isn't going to be starting, he still is needed as depth unless he is going to get us someone better. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 08:36 AM) He's young enough to justify going back down and can still get every day at bats down there. He's fine going back. Agree with you both. As long as Rollins, Saladino, Frazier and Lawrie are healthy, there's no playing time for Sanchez at the MLB level. The Sox can get Sanchez every day playing time down in Charlotte. Better to stash Sanchez there for the time being and fall back on him as the assert that he is instead of trading him and possibly needing to fall back on Leury Garcia. If a team wants to give + value for Sanchez in a trade that's fine but as of right now, Sanchez is probably more valuable to the Sox than he is to another team. A 23 year old switch hitter with + defense and range is an asset worth keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) Agree with you both. As long as Rollins, Saladino, Frazier and Lawrie are healthy, there's no playing time for Sanchez at the MLB level. The Sox can get Sanchez every day playing time down in Charlotte. Better to stash Sanchez there for the time being and fall back on him as the assert that he is instead of trading him and possibly needing to fall back on Leury Garcia. If a team wants to give + value for Sanchez in a trade that's fine but as of right now, Sanchez is probably more valuable to the Sox than he is to another team. A 23 year old switch hitter with + defense and range is an asset worth keeping. And I would rather have him playing every day in Charlotte, versus once a week in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 09:07 AM) And I would rather have him playing every day in Charlotte, versus once a week in Chicago. Exactly. We all know he can field 2B so I'm wondering if the Sox will put Davidson at 1B/DH from time to time so that Sanchez can gain some experience playing 3B. I kind of doubt Sanchez has the arm for playing the left side of the infield but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 09:17 AM) Exactly. We all know he can field 2B so I'm wondering if the Sox will put Davidson at 1B/DH from time to time so that Sanchez can gain some experience playing 3B. I kind of doubt Sanchez has the arm for playing the left side of the infield but I could be wrong. Spring Training and AAA are the places to find that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jimmy-r...sox-camp-031116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 11, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jimmy-r...sox-camp-031116 This shocks me. Rollins does not have an "out" in his contract, according to a major-league source; he is competing for both the utility job and a chance to be the regular at short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyGillis Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 11, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) This shocks me. He must have a terrible agent. Edit: I just looked up his agent and the guy has Pujols and Votto. I wonder what he has against Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 It's early but I really like the problem Rollins and Saladino are creating for Ventura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 QUOTE (OnlyGillis @ Mar 11, 2016 -> 11:22 PM) He must have a terrible agent. Edit: I just looked up his agent and the guy has Pujols and Votto. I wonder what he has against Jimmy. Maybe Rollins really believes in himself, especially given his competition. The player ultimately makes the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 22m22 minutes ago Goodyear, AZ Robin Ventura says he knows who will be the White Sox starting shortstop in Oakland... He declined to tell us today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 22m22 minutes ago Goodyear, AZ Robin Ventura says he knows who will be the White Sox starting shortstop in Oakland... He declined to tell us today. Oh great. Who do people want to be the SS? I think Saladino would be my choice but I feel like Robin will go with Rollins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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