southsider2k5 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) If you read his tweet on its own it seems innocuous. But he was tweeting during the opening monologue, which implies that he was saying 'i cant be bothered with this' and that is not a good look. It doesn't imply anything that people aren't looking to infer from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) It doesn't imply anything that people aren't looking to infer from it. An activist is on TV speaking You say 'why does everything have to be about race' Then by definition you're saying 'get off my TV' That's exactly how it came off. We can root for these guys and not blindly defend them 100% of the time. He messed up and his apology is warranted, and I'm glad he apologized in a direct way too, leaving no doubt. The situation called for it. Edited February 29, 2016 by Jose Paniagua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 He apologized, it's over. I really don't care about this. Often, people use verbiage like this to hide their racism, but I honestly don't believe Adam Eaton is a racist or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) An activist is on TV speaking You say 'why does everything have to be about race' Then by definition you're saying 'get off my TV' That's exactly how it came off. We can root for these guys and not blindly defend them 100% of the time. He messed up and his apology is warranted, and I'm glad he apologized in a direct way too, leaving no doubt. The situation called for it. He is saying why does everything have to be divisive, which is exactly what taking the "get off my tv" position is doing back. Eaton said nothing more than "can't we all just get along". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) He apologized, it's over. I really don't care about this. Often, people use verbiage like this to hide their racism, but I honestly don't believe Adam Eaton is a racist or anything like that. I just think he may not have known the context for why Chris Rock was giving the monologue he gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) I just think he may not have known the context for why Chris Rock was giving the monologue he gave. Maybe, but either way, Eaton's such a non-story. It's just fishing for something done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) If you read his tweet on its own it seems innocuous. But he was tweeting during the opening monologue, which implies that he was saying 'i cant be bothered with this' and that is not a good look. So basically he gets muddied up because you inferred what he meant in a tweet sent during the Oscars opening? Seems like a big stretch to me, and not insulting in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) So basically he gets muddied up because you inferred what he meant in a tweet sent during the Oscars opening? Seems like a big stretch to me, and not insulting in any way. You can't say "Why does it have to be about race?", when the Academy made the ceremony about race months ago. Everyone knows why it's important. Edited February 29, 2016 by AustinIllini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) An activist is on TV speaking You say 'why does everything have to be about race' Then by definition you're saying 'get off my TV' That's exactly how it came off. We can root for these guys and not blindly defend them 100% of the time. He messed up and his apology is warranted, and I'm glad he apologized in a direct way too, leaving no doubt. The situation called for it. But this is your OPINION, not a fact. I don't feel he owes anyone an apology, and was not offended in the least. People are way too quick to make a mountain out of a molehill, especially when anything is related to race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmooncreeping Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) You can't say "Why does it have to be about race?", when the Academy made the ceremony about race months ago. Everyone knows why it's important. The media made it about race, not the Academy imo. Media ran with it, hoping for a fire. It's no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) You can't say "Why does it have to be about race?", when the Academy made the ceremony about race months ago. Everyone knows why it's important. And the response to the Academy made it about race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) The media made it about race, not the Academy imo. Media ran with it, hoping for a fire. It's no surprise. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:39 PM) And the response to the Academy made it about race. The Academy nominated all white people. The media did its job: They exposed systematic discrimination by an organization run by liberals. Please don't pretend this race issue holds no water. It absolutely does. Edited February 29, 2016 by AustinIllini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) The Academy nominated all white people. The media did its job: They exposed systematic discrimination by an organization run by liberals. Please don't pretend this race issue holds no water. It absolutely does. Its not about nominations, its about opportunity. There was probably one minority acting snub from all of the roles, but there were other white people snubbed as well. The point is the roles available arent equal therefore nominations dont happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Its not about nominations, its about opportunity. There was probably one minority acting snub from all of the roles, but there were other white people snubbed as well. The point is the roles available arent equal therefore nominations dont happen. Agreed. but the available roles is just the problem, and it is a real one. It's not a media fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 When Chris Rock did his "man on the street" thing with black people outside a movie theater in Compton, he asked them if they saw (fill in the blank "white" movie). The answer was pretty much "no" across the board. If, as a community, you largely ignore "white" films, how can you be outraged when black actors/films aren't nominated? If you, as a community, don't see the work done by white actors in "white" films, what is your frame of reference for outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 can the season start already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) can the season start already? yes, please. There's a circus in the Cubs locker room. The world has exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco1997 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) When Chris Rock did his "man on the street" thing with black people outside a movie theater in Compton, he asked them if they saw (fill in the blank "white" movie). The answer was pretty much "no" across the board. If, as a community, you largely ignore "white" films, how can you be outraged when black actors/films aren't nominated? If you, as a community, don't see the work done by white actors in "white" films, what is your frame of reference for outrage? Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) When Chris Rock did his "man on the street" thing with black people outside a movie theater in Compton, he asked them if they saw (fill in the blank "white" movie). The answer was pretty much "no" across the board. If, as a community, you largely ignore "white" films, how can you be outraged when black actors/films aren't nominated? If you, as a community, don't see the work done by white actors in "white" films, what is your frame of reference for outrage? This brings up a good point, man on the street things are always good frames of reference to understand a community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 When Chris Rock did his "man on the street" thing with black people outside a movie theater in Compton, he asked them if they saw (fill in the blank "white" movie). The answer was pretty much "no" across the board. If, as a community, you largely ignore "white" films, how can you be outraged when black actors/films aren't nominated? If you, as a community, don't see the work done by white actors in "white" films, what is your frame of reference for outrage? It doesn't really matter what movies people in Compton are watching. Award nominations can't be about how many people saw the film, or else Star Wars gets all the Oscars for 2016. People who vote are supposed to watch all the films, "black" "white" and whatever doesn't fit into those categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) He is saying why does everything have to be divisive, which is exactly what taking the "get off my tv" position is doing back. Eaton said nothing more than "can't we all just get along". Exactly. He made a simple tweet. He did nothing wrong. That's one reason Trump winning wouldn't be so bad. This P.C. world is fricking ridiculous. Like that situation at Mizzou. Half that stuff was set up and caused by ACTIVISTS. No wonder Pinkel said the hell with it and got out. He's too old to put up with all this p.c. crap. Poor Eaton. So many celebrities have had careers ruined by little tweets. I don't blame him on this one except he was ridiculously stupid to not realize you can't say what you really think on "social media." He should have thought one thing, said that to his wife, then wrote, "You tell em, Chris Rock! I've always loved Chris Rock and he's great as usual tonight!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Gary Pinkel has cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) Exactly. He made a simple tweet. He did nothing wrong. That's one reason Trump winning wouldn't be so bad. This P.C. world is fricking ridiculous. Like that situation at Mizzou. Half that stuff was set up and caused by ACTIVISTS. No wonder Pinkel said the hell with it and got out. He's too old to put up with all this p.c. crap. Poor Eaton. So many celebrities have had careers ruined by little tweets. I don't blame him on this one except he was ridiculously stupid to not realize you can't say what you really think on "social media." He should have thought one thing, said that to his wife, then wrote, "You tell em, Chris Rock! I've always loved Chris Rock and he's great as usual tonight!" Oh Greg.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) I just think he may not have known the context for why Chris Rock was giving the monologue he gave. I think this is 100 percent what happened. Like I said, not a big deal but he does have to be smarter than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Its not about nominations, its about opportunity. There was probably one minority acting snub from all of the roles, but there were other white people snubbed as well. The point is the roles available arent equal therefore nominations dont happen. This is probably a better question for caulfield but I've heard multiple people bring up the fact that Asians are generally racist. Movie studios make a ton of money overseas and in Asian nations, they don't want to see movies with black people in them. I'm not sure how true this is but Bill Maher brought it up and I've seen it mentioned in a couple of other places as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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