Chisoxfn Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Do you think it will be one of the 4 remaining candidates, or will it be someone not currently in the race. If it isn't someone in the race, who do you think it will be? Romney, Jeb, Paul Ryan? Personally, I think if they end up brokered, Kasich is the only standing who I think would have a chance and even than, I'm thinking it will be as the VP (I actually think he would be very high up on Trump's list, to be frank). I will point out, Kasich was on O'Reilly after the debate and very firmly said he is not interested in being the VP (how true that is, who knows). My prediction is if it goes to a brokered convention, it will be Paul Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think they'd love Ryan, but I'm not convinced Ryan would do it. I think he wouldn't. My guess is that Plan A is Rubio, or maybe Kasich. If they go outside the current group, if they can't get Ryan, I just don't see anyone that works. Romney again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Kasich has to say that because he's still in the race. I think Romney enters himself after Rubio drops out (when he loses Florida) to try and force a brokered convention. I think he embarrasses himself even more than he already has and it fails to get there. Cruz says he has no interest in a brokered convention. I believe him. He's not an establishment guy and that's more their power play. Hell support Trump and if Trump can win the GA it will benefit Cruz. Trump likes Cruz a lot even though it's not evident on the debate stage. Paul Ryan I don't see it. Trying to do this could be a career ender if anything goes wrong. Hell, even if he won a brokered convention there'd be a huge revolt within the party and the nominee would get destroyed in the general. Ryan is too young to take that risk. Everyone knows he can be a great future candidate. No need to go down that path now. Romney has nothing to lose so I can see him going for it. I just dont see it working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'd love to see a brokered convention, but the odds of it happening are about zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I hate Hillary but will vote for her over Trump every day of the week. Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 06:16 PM) I hate Hillary but will vote for her over Trump every day of the week. Hillary will win in a landslide against Trump. esp if Julian Castro is her VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Paul Ryan is a tea party nutter. Romney would be the logical choice but they really should roll with Kasich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) Paul Ryan is a tea party nutter. Romney would be the logical choice but they really should roll with Kasich. Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump. Just as the socialist tag hurts Sanders, the tea party tag will hurt Ryan. This is my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) Ryan isn't a traditional tea party type. He's actually a policy wonk and takes leadership very seriously. The opposite of Trump. That assumption sort of falls apart when you look at the policies and budgets he's proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) Just as the socialist tag hurts Sanders, the tea party tag will hurt Ryan. This is my opinion of course. I think Ryan is making all the right moves on that front. The as speaker it will be possible for him to somewhat separate himself from that tag and just get things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) That assumption sort of falls apart when you look at the policies and budgets he's proposed. Not at all. Policy wonk doesn't mean "policies I agree with". His policy stuff is quite sound, even if I disagree with his approach in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) Not at all. Policy wonk doesn't mean "policies I agree with". His policy stuff is quite sound, even if I disagree with his approach in many cases. Agreed. I lean middle-left, but I admit Paul Ryan is the best part of Republicanism at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) nvm no need to derail Edited March 4, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 4, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) Do you think it will be one of the 4 remaining candidates, or will it be someone not currently in the race. If it isn't someone in the race, who do you think it will be? Romney, Jeb, Paul Ryan? Personally, I think if they end up brokered, Kasich is the only standing who I think would have a chance and even than, I'm thinking it will be as the VP (I actually think he would be very high up on Trump's list, to be frank). I will point out, Kasich was on O'Reilly after the debate and very firmly said he is not interested in being the VP (how true that is, who knows). My prediction is if it goes to a brokered convention, it will be Paul Ryan. Kasich was on a radio show today and was emphatic he will refuse to be anybody's vice president. I can't imagine him being that forceful if he planned on being a VEEP. The host said "I think you will" and Kasich said there is no chance of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 A little off topic but I just thought of something somewhat interesting. What if Trump and Bernie both do 3rd party runs and it's Hilary and Rubio/Cruz/Kasich/Romney(etc.) Who would win that election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 A little off topic but I just thought of something somewhat interesting. What if Trump and Bernie both do 3rd party runs and it's Hilary and Rubio/Cruz/Kasich/Romney(etc.) Who would win that election? There's no way Bernie runs as an independent if he gets the nomination. He knows he can't win and all he can do is prevent Hillary from winning, and as much as he may dislike Hillary he 100% wants her over any Republican. But, in that hypothetical scenario, it's very unlikely anybody gets 270 electoral votes so the House gets to choose and they choose the non-Trump Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Kasich was on a radio show today and was emphatic he will refuse to be anybody's vice president. I can't imagine him being that forceful if he planned on being a VEEP. The host said "I think you will" and Kasich said there is no chance of that. He very rightly should not give up being governor of a big state to be VP, especially since he really doesn't line up well policy-wise with Trump or Cruz anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Rubio is finished. He won't drop out until after Florida but he's finished. Kasich is about 50/50 to win Ohio right now. If he doesn't, then he'll drop out and it will be Trump v Cruz to the end. My guess is Cruz would win. If Kasich wins Ohio, then we probably get to the convention with nobody having a majority of delegates. Kasich tries to use the fact that he polls way better vs Hillary than either of the other two to try to get a brokered deal, but I can't see either of the other two going for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) Rubio is finished. He won't drop out until after Florida but he's finished. Kasich is about 50/50 to win Ohio right now. If he doesn't, then he'll drop out and it will be Trump v Cruz to the end. My guess is Cruz would win. If Kasich wins Ohio, then we probably get to the convention with nobody having a majority of delegates. Kasich tries to use the fact that he polls way better vs Hillary than either of the other two to try to get a brokered deal, but I can't see either of the other two going for that. I think Rubio will stay in, in the hopes of being the "brokered convention" candidate". However, I've been wrong before this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I think Rubio will stay in, in the hopes of being the "brokered convention" candidate". However, I've been wrong before this year. Everybody has been wrong about this election. Most more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) A little off topic but I just thought of something somewhat interesting. What if Trump and Bernie both do 3rd party runs and it's Hilary and Rubio/Cruz/Kasich/Romney(etc.) Who would win that election? That would be a fascinating situation, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 7, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) That would be a fascinating situation, that's for sure. the way things go, imho it will go along the lines of race / gender voting. it will also go with who is the VP nom. women of all colors = Hillary Hispanic = depends on the dem VP but cruz ...... //// key to the main hispanic vote African / americans = Hillary LGBT = usually Dem party / Hillary other Race = depends on the msg white males = this is the wildcard..... for the biggest voting majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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