southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:30 PM) People thought Laroche would be a 30 homeruns producer at the Cell and that didn't happen. And Abreu blew away almost every projection his first year there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:08 PM) And Abreu blew away almost every projection his first year there. Well can all agree Abreu is a much better hitter. What's your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) Well can all agree Abreu is a much better hitter. What's your point. My point is that basing something on one person is pointless, which you just confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) So most of us thought the Sox would exercise the $10 million option on Alexei. Hahn basically traded that for Rollins, Latos, and Jackson for the option plus the $1 million buyout. It still wouldn't surprise me if they traded Avi and/or a reliever befor the season started. A year ago you probably couldn't have gotten Latos or Jackson alone for $10 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) I really think Eaton will be a beast in RF. I think he plays LF coming off the shoulder surgery since Melky has a good enough arm fir RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) My point is that basing something on one person is pointless, which you just confirmed. Yes but Laroche has had more power in his career. He's hit 30 before. Lawrie hasn't hit 20 before. He's hit 16 which is the highest in his career and played the most games last year. Can Lawrie hit 20+? Possibly but it's not a guarantee. Can Laroche hit 30+? Possibly but again not a guarantee. Plain and simple need need them to produce. I still think the Sox are short a more run producing bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:07 PM) How is comparing these guy's ridiculous. Lawrie is coming in here having career highs on certain stats and when Laroche came over was a bit more consistent producer in his certain stats. The issue is Sox need Laroche to desperately bounce back and Lawrie to continue to be healthy and putting up numbers. Plain in simple sox upgraded this year but still need guys to produce consistently. Really honestly sox are going to need to score at least 700 runs since every team that made the playoffs last year scored at least that amout. Because LaRoche was 10 years older and switching both leagues and position. If you're concerned Lawrie might not hit 20 HRs because of health that's more than fair, but LaRoche's failures last year have absolutely no bearing on Lawrie. Edited March 7, 2016 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:21 PM) Based on streamers projections if Sox run melky, Jackson and eaton for most of your everyday outfield is only putting up 32 homeruns combined. Better be hope Frazier can adjust to the AL and Laroche bounces back cause the sox need those big bats to produce. It didn't look much different with Avi starting. Still think we'll be closer to 45 than 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) Theoretically they could potentially send Garcia to AAA since he is working on a new stance/mechanics or I guess trade him. That's what I was thinking. More depth means more trade pieces and since Avi isn't a defensive replacement type OF, Shuck Avi and Sands might be in a battle for the 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:41 PM) Don't forget a 10 year age difference. Comparing Lawrie to LaRoche is beyond ridiculous. Not to mention Lawrie has been in the AL his whole career while LaRoche was declining and moving to a different league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think 35 seems about right. I'd say 15 for Melky & 10 apiece for Eaton & Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I still think we take two backup OFs to start the season. I think having a guy who can platoon with LaRoche (Avi or Sands) is far more important than having a second backup IF like Sanchez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:21 PM) Based on streamers projections if Sox run melky, Jackson and eaton for most of your everyday outfield is only putting up 32 homeruns combined. Better be hope Frazier can adjust to the AL and Laroche bounces back cause the sox need those big bats to produce. 32 seems conservative. They combined for 35 last year, and Melky/Jackson could easily hit more than they hit last year. I'd guess 41. 14 (again) from Eaton, 15 from Melky, 12 from Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:32 PM) Not to mention Lawrie has been in the AL his whole career while LaRoche was declining and moving to a different league Yes but Lawrie hasn't been full healthy every year except for last year for a career high in games and has never lived up to his potential. The good thing Lawrie has going for him is hopefully being off of the turf now full time and being younger he continues to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 08:36 PM) I still think we take two backup OFs to start the season. I think having a guy who can platoon with LaRoche (Avi or Sands) is far more important than having a second backup IF like Sanchez. I would agree with this. More bench pieces could be added, but right now i'd go with 3B/SS/2B - Saladino LF/RF/1B - Sands / Avi (prefer Sands) CF/LF/RF - Shuck / Fields / May C - Avila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Deal is official. Mike Olt DFA'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) I still think we take two backup OFs to start the season. I think having a guy who can platoon with LaRoche (Avi or Sands) is far more important than having a second backup IF like Sanchez. There's certainly a lot of ways the Sox can go. They can use Lawrie more at DH also along with the other DH options mentioned. We don't know for sure just how good or bad Lawrie will be at 2nd and having guys like Saladino and Sanchez around may weaken the bench bats but is far superior as late inning defensive replacements, Still might see the Sox grab another defensive OF late in ST as rosters are pared or trade fir one with the excess relievers . A guy like Jackie Bradley Jr. who's LH and very good defensively with offensive upside would be perfect but not many like him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:36 PM) I still think we take two backup OFs to start the season. I think having a guy who can platoon with LaRoche (Avi or Sands) is far more important than having a second backup IF like Sanchez. Between Saladino, Rollins, and Lawrie they can all play every position so I don't think we need another back up infielder IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'd have Avila, Shuck, Avi, and Saladino on the bench. Avi can platoon and Shuck can serve as the more traditional 4th OFer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Sox Designate Mike Ol troster spot was needed for the signing of Austin Jackson, http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/03/whit...medium=facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 08:08 PM) Sox Designate Mike Ol troster spot was needed for the signing of Austin Jackson, http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/03/whit...medium=facebook This deal just keeps getting better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) Between Saladino, Rollins, and Lawrie they can all play every position so I don't think we need another back up infielder IMO ...if Rollins remains on the team if he doesn't win the starting job. That hasn't really been established yet has it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ventura seemed to guarantee Rollins a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 QUOTE (daggins @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) I would agree with this. More bench pieces could be added, but right now i'd go with 3B/SS/2B - Saladino LF/RF/1B - Sands / Avi (prefer Sands) CF/LF/RF - Shuck / Fields / May C - Avila Well, by my count, that's a 6-man bench (counting just one of Sands/Avi), and that would leave us with a 5 man 'pen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Pretty sure he's saying a 4 man bench. One of those players from each line, You don't really think he has 4 OF's on the bench do you ? (Shuck,Sands, Fields, May) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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