lasttriptotulsa Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) He shouldn't have to worry about that. He'll always have his education to fall back on. Yea he probably will. I'm sure he gets a much better education working with a private Sylvan tutor than he would in a public school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 How dumb are these people to not realize players complained? Jesse Rogers @ESPNChiCubs 7m7 minutes ago Consensus in Cubs locker room re LaRoche is basically players should have been allowed to police the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 How dumb are these people to not realize players complained? Jesse Rogers @ESPNChiCubs 7m7 minutes ago Consensus in Cubs locker room re LaRoche is basically players should have been allowed to police the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) Thank goodness AJ isn't still around with his blow up doll Ha ha, no kidding man. How about Swisher's taste in clubhouse décor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) Just some comments. Rosenthal just came out with a column basically asking, "who is running the White Sox show?" something that fans have been asking for the last few years. In it his says there is friction between Hahn and Williams and wonders why the policy wasn't presented by Hahn or Ventura. He also says those two disagreed with Kenny. Obviously this is just another bit of evidence of a somewhat dysfunctional front office...maybe more than we think. Obviously JR should be the one to step in but apparently it doesn't bother him. The only time I can recall that he did so was when he had the pregame press conference in D.C. where he told both Williams and Ozzie to cut it out after the Twitter stuff came out. When your top pitcher tells the V.P. to get out and stay out of the clubhouse, it's not a good thing. LaRoche's leaving help the Sox on the field and may lead to tearing it apart and torpedoing the season when all is said and done. We'll see but this situation appears now to be getting out of control. Mark If players are going to Kenny Williams, it sounds like neither Robin or Rick is taking care of the problem, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Deadspin is really nailing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) he will still be able to buy a pony either way My little pony? That would make him a brony, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) How dumb are these people to not realize players complained? Jesse Rogers @ESPNChiCubs 7m7 minutes ago Consensus in Cubs locker room re LaRoche is basically players should have been allowed to police the situation no s***, the players did police the situation because unlike last year the club has real leaders. KW simply decided to play bad cop and act as their proxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Do you need an Aspirin or something? Mido!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) Who would you rather the players hate, KW or Ventura? Noone, but why would you ignore your GM and manager when they tell you that you should not tell LaRoche anything and you completely ignore them and do it anyway, ultimately causeing what appears to be a sizable rift in the clubhouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) So Sale told KW "get the f*** out of the clubhouse"? Perhaps Sale trying to get 'fired' from his awful contract ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I doubt players are going to come out against Laroche in a situation that's basically "management v players" now, they are all in a union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:57 PM) So the Jimmy Rollins signing was genius. He got LaRoche off the team and saved the White Sox $13 million. ^^^^^ !!! ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Noone, but why would you ignore your GM and manager when they tell you that you should not tell LaRoche anything and you completely ignore them and do it anyway, ultimately causeing what appears to be a sizable rift in the clubhouse They did tell KW to talk to him about dialing back, and he refused to listen so KW brought it up again and he quit. KW did nothing bad here, he's just being the bad guy to keep others out of the spotlight. The story is so dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Herb LawrenceVerified account @Ecnerwal23 8m8 minutes ago Imperial Beach, CA The Sox-LaRoche thing is a win-win for both parties. AL can go out as a martyr instead of a bum player. Sox get bad player/contact off books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Ok, I'm all the way on management's side on this. Forget LaRoche, and get over it, Sale and Eaton, and the rest of the s***-kickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Herb LawrenceVerified account @Ecnerwal23 8m8 minutes ago Imperial Beach, CA The Sox-LaRoche thing is a win-win for both parties. AL can go out as a martyr instead of a bum player. Sox get bad player/contact off books He's not really going out as a martyr. He's going out as a selfish d-bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:36 PM) Ok, I'm all the way on management's side on this. Forget LaRoche, and get over it, Sale and Eaton, and the rest of the s***-kickers. Same. Players need to grow up. They are privileged to play a game they love and probably have never had a conventional business 9-5 job in their life. If they can't get over it, trade them. Don't care how talented they are. They aren't focusing on the big picture, they're focusing on a f***ing 14 year old kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) They did tell KW to talk to him about dialing back, and he refused to listen so KW brought it up again and he quit. KW did nothing bad here, he's just being the bad guy to keep others out of the spotlight. The story is so dumb. The more details that start to trickle in, the more LaRoche just sounds like a selfish asshole. He is solely responsible for creating a very awkward situation. I am never one to stick up for Kenny, but man this was an absolute no win situation. And this is just not dying out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Ravech saying that Sale, Robertson and Frazier helped with the decision for the team to play yesterday http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14996172 Also, I wonder what "extreme actions" everyone was considering Edited March 17, 2016 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Here's Sullivan. He has some interesting questions. http://www.redeyechicago.com/ct-no-winners...317-column.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Wow, Pedro Gomez said a few of the coaches raised concerns about Drake's presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) He's not really going out as a martyr. He's going out as a selfish d-bag. Eh. I won't call him selfish or anything, but I don't get why this is such an unreasonable request. I have no problem with the guy standing up for his beliefs, I just don't get his beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I think this will blow over eventually, but if it doesn't and the White Sox tank in 2016, my prediction is RH...gone. RV...gone. KW takes back the GM seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 This situation just seems so bizarre because of the timing. Few weeks before the season and now we have this stupid distraction. Better not give this team an excuse to win 76 games and suck. I really hope this isn't pissing Sale off and leading to a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts