chitownsportsfan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) FWIW, this gets said every year and I always 100% disagree with this. You're completely right about position players - they could be ready to go by mid-March, probably earlier if they had to given modern training techniques. However, the trick with baseball is the pitching staff. You're just not going to convince me that for most guys shortening ST is a good idea. There is a big difference between working out in the offseason and having an arm conditioned to throw 100 pitches as a starter or to come out and throw as hard as possible for 20 pitches out of the bullpen, and you're not going to get to that point unless you're facing live batters and build up 30-60-100 pitches over a couple starts. Heck, we see enough pitchers who don't get their full velocity until May as starters that I could see some guys benefiting from an even longer throwing program in the preseason. And no, simulated games aren't going to work for most guys, they're not putting the same effort in no matter how they do it. So, pitchers need game action, and they need to be facing live hitters actually trying to hit off them. Rodon had his "dead arm" start last time out, better in late March than on April 10. Yea I'm not exactly sure how best to do it you do have to have your starters firing "live bullets" to real MLB hitters and with the usual 5-7 rotation candidates for each team that means you need 25 or "official" games and then the other 10 or so intrasquad and MiLB games to get everyone enough work. It's probably about right where they have it now. It's not broke so don't fix it. Now, the NFL and NBA however could easily cut down their pre-season by 1/3 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Saladino with a no doubter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Garcia with a 3 pitch K. Glad things are right where they need to be for opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 QUOTE (staxx @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) Garcia with a 3 pitch K. Glad things are right where they need to be for opening day. My first time seeing him this spring...he looks the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Saladino' facial hair is beyond weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 04:55 PM) Saladino' facial hair is beyond weak. He must think he's Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat Edited March 30, 2016 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) What do you mean by this? Only actual starter not getting the day off. Just joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 03:48 PM) FWIW, this gets said every year and I always 100% disagree with this. You're completely right about position players - they could be ready to go by mid-March, probably earlier if they had to given modern training techniques. However, the trick with baseball is the pitching staff. You're just not going to convince me that for most guys shortening ST is a good idea. There is a big difference between working out in the offseason and having an arm conditioned to throw 100 pitches as a starter or to come out and throw as hard as possible for 20 pitches out of the bullpen, and you're not going to get to that point unless you're facing live batters and build up 30-60-100 pitches over a couple starts. Heck, we see enough pitchers who don't get their full velocity until May as starters that I could see some guys benefiting from an even longer throwing program in the preseason. And no, simulated games aren't going to work for most guys, they're not putting the same effort in no matter how they do it. So, pitchers need game action, and they need to be facing live hitters actually trying to hit off them. Rodon had his "dead arm" start last time out, better in late March than on April 10. Agreed about the pitching staff. I guess they could have alot of B games but the owners wouldn't make money on those. So as long as the pitchers need to pitch they may as well sell tivkets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 11:43 PM) Agreed about the pitching staff. I guess they could have alot of B games but the owners wouldn't make money on those. So as long as the pitchers need to pitch they may as well sell tivkets. and that is the sensible answer which is all true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 30, 2016 -> 04:55 PM) Saladino' facial hair is beyond weak. It would not play in Miami this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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