Kyyle23 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 12:14 PM) Was lukewarm on it due to Semien and rental nature. Here, I'll save you further effort. Lol I love that you are actually looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 well i know i never wanted panda and i even mention that with the big contract, he will out eat his contract. however with that said, i will not say never..... but if bos pays a crap load of his contract and offer a handfull of their key prospects. it might be a beginning. if not, there are other options, how desperate are they to move him??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 11:57 AM) And to be fair, literally no one thought signing Sandoval at anywhere near what Boston bid was a good idea. No one. Never said anyone here did. I just said it seemed pretty obvious that trouble would occur. Maybe the Red Sox thought they could get 2 or 3 years out of him before it happened, but they got nothing. Many times teams get burned, but at least you could see where a signing made sense. This one was crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) Never said anyone here did. I just said it seemed pretty obvious that trouble would occur. Maybe the Red Sox thought they could get 2 or 3 years out of him before it happened, but they got nothing. Many times teams get burned, but at least you could see where a signing made sense. This one was crazy. And it was compounded by the HanRam signing and subsequent failing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 $Zero. f*** Boston. I hope they never win another game again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I think Chris Sale straight up for Kung Fu Panda is a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Where exactly would Panda play? DH? Zero interest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 01:01 PM) I think Chris Sale straight up for Kung Fu Panda is a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Zero Bust in Boston We have a 3rd baseman...Panda can play no other position. If this isn't "hero worshiping", then what is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Based on his performance and the contract figures you just broke down I think you actually answered your own question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 0.000000% chance I'd do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 04:56 PM) Zero Bust in Boston We have a 3rd baseman...Panda can play no other position. If this isn't "hero worshiping", then what is it? God that phrase is so stupid and way overused on this site. How is trying to find a reasonably priced DH "hero worshiping"? If he hits like he did in 2014 he's still worth $6-8M/year on the open market easily, if not more. 1 bad year doesn't make the guy done forever. He does have an .848 OPS this spring and steamer has him projected at .281/.332/.441....it's no doubt a gamble, but if we could get him at below market value and implement a weight clause I don't see how it's such a crazy idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) Zero Bust in Boston We have a 3rd baseman...Panda can play no other position. If this isn't "hero worshiping", then what is it? I think you've forever ruined the word "hero" for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 He can't even switch hit anymore and the contract is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 10:19 PM) God that phrase is so stupid and way overused on this site. How is trying to find a reasonably priced DH "hero worshiping"? If he hits like he did in 2014 he's still worth $6-8M/year on the open market easily, if not more. 1 bad year doesn't make the guy done forever. He does have an .848 OPS this spring and steamer has him projected at .281/.332/.441....it's no doubt a gamble, but if we could get him at below market value and implement a weight clause I don't see how it's such a crazy idea. i agree with the bold ref #1. ref to the other bold, i hate to bring this up, but panda is signed to a contract and no one can add an amendment to an existing contract unless the players agrees to it. so can you see panda agreeing to a weight clause?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 05:19 PM) God that phrase is so stupid and way overused on this site. How is trying to find a reasonably priced DH "hero worshiping"? If he hits like he did in 2014 he's still worth $6-8M/year on the open market easily, if not more. 1 bad year doesn't make the guy done forever. He does have an .848 OPS this spring and steamer has him projected at .281/.332/.441....it's no doubt a gamble, but if we could get him at below market value and implement a weight clause I don't see how it's such a crazy idea. I think we have to consider the fact that Boston has benched him in favor of an okay-hitting first baseman who may not even be able to field the position as evidence that Sandoval hasn't shown a lot of "bounceback promise," and there's no reason to believe a weight clause will work here when it hasn't worked anywhere else he's been. Edited April 1, 2016 by Eminor3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 12:19 AM) I think we have to consider the fact that Boston has benched him in favor of an okay-hitting first baseman who may not even be able to field the position as evidence that Sandoval hasn't shown a lot of "bounceback promise," and there's no reason to believe a weight clause will work here when it hasn't worked anywhere else he's been. if i understand, if there was a weight clause, then bos can enforce by what ever the language of the contract says. whether it is no money or reduce salary. what is really needed is a hard weight clause, either you meet a certain weight or no money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) if i understand, if there was a weight clause, then bos can enforce by what ever the language of the contract says. whether it is no money or reduce salary. what is really needed is a hard weight clause, either you meet a certain weight or no money. His contract is signed, he has four more years of no weight clause. There is no reason for him to just give them a reason to withhold money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 If a weight clause was possible with Sandoval, his weight wouldn't be a concern right now. Sandoval's lack of self restraint when it comes to food tells me he is not very dedicated to his job or his team. Boston can keep that bloated contract and player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 07:38 PM) His contract is signed, he has four more years of no weight clause. There is no reason for him to just give them a reason to withhold money This^ +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 01:38 AM) His contract is signed, he has four more years of no weight clause. There is no reason for him to just give them a reason to withhold money thanks for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) Zero Bust in Boston We have a 3rd baseman...Panda can play no other position. If this isn't "hero worshiping", then what is it? Dude is making $95 million to be fat and lazy. He may well be my hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 04:00 AM) If they could acquire him for a low A player with the White Sox paying 4-5 million per year for his services, I would actually be interested. Even with everything going on, it wouldn't be a franchise changing killer contract. *Hot Take over well this is on me and me being, well greedy, foolish, stupid, but i would want, beside a sweetener of money for the salary, but a prospect added..... i know they are giving him to the sox for 4-5 mip per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Looking at Sandoval's belly leads me to believe he's about to give birth to a teenage mutant ninja turtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 04:15 AM) Looking at Sandoval's belly leads me to believe he's about to give birth to a teenage mutant ninja turtle. most excellent way to end a nite... with a great laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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