Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/three-ways-...iguel-gonzalez/ I don't really get the appeal. I'd rather roll with Latos and Danks unless Gonzalez is going to AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/three-ways-...iguel-gonzalez/ I don't really get the appeal. I'd rather roll with Latos and Danks unless Gonzalez is going to AAA $$$ and the appearance of the sox still trying to improve the ballclub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) $$$ and the appearance of the sox still trying to improve the ballclub. I don't think the appearance has anything to do with it. He doesn't really fit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:39 AM) I don't think the appearance has anything to do with it. He doesn't really fit though. I don't get the appeal either, but if he is willing to go to Charlotte, who really cares? To me, getting a guy who would suck just as much or more than the person he is replacing really isn't insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) I don't get the appeal either, but if he is willing to go to Charlotte, who really cares? To me, getting a guy who would suck just as much or more than the person he is replacing really isn't insurance. I guess it'd be good insurance in case Latos absolutely bombs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 02:39 PM) I don't think the appearance has anything to do with it. He doesn't really fit though. and that is a nice theory, if only the sox FO would have thought of the same, but they were among the 5 teams that are pursuing him. as DA mention, maybe it would be for the minors team. however i doubt it. ref to appearance, the sox have to continue to sell this team to the fans and have tickets to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:46 AM) I guess it'd be good insurance in case Latos absolutely bombs. Not if he would bomb. Keep in mind, everything anyone is using for their reason for Latos to suck, 2015 results, 2016 spring training results, this guy had the same problem. Edited April 1, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:46 AM) and that is a nice theory, if only the sox FO would have thought of the same, but they were among the 5 teams that are pursuing him. as DA mention, maybe it would be for the minors team. however i doubt it. ref to appearance, the sox have to continue to sell this team to the fans and have tickets to sell. Miguel Gonzalez isn't selling any tickets. You can see Chris Sale pitch for $10 and there are still less than 20K in the house. Sox fans aren't going to games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) Not if he would bomb. Keep in mind, everything anyone is using for their reason for Latos to suck, 2015 results, 2016 spring training results, this guy had the same problem. True but someone's gotta eat innings. He's proven he can be decent the past few seasons. He seems to be on the decline but I'd feel better about Gonzalez than Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Miguel Gonzalez isn't selling any tickets. You can see Chris Sale pitch for $10 and there are still less than 20K in the house. Sox fans aren't going to games. Exactly this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Miguel Gonzalez isn't selling any tickets. You can see Chris Sale pitch for $10 and there are still less than 20K in the house. Sox fans aren't going to games. you are not looking at the big picture, you are thinking figuratively and not in the general terms. if the sox wanted to sell more tickets, then they would have gotten a marque player, whether that be a sp or not. but to give the appearance that the sox care about winning and making the fans happy, they do the little things to tweak the team, like signing MG ...... while at the same time keeping looking at the profit margin..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Exactly this. that was the sox never have done this kind of fixing the team and surprisingly at a minimum cost on the front side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Mar 31, 2016 -> 06:09 PM) This tells me that the White Sox brass can't be too pleased with the bottom of our rotation which consists of Danks and Latos. They should be nervous about it. If they can get depth to keep at AAA, they should absolutely do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) that was the sox never have done this kind of fixing the team and surprisingly at a minimum cost on the front side. This is absolutely not true. They love bringing in reclamation projects, and do it on a very regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Looks pretty obvious to me that the Sox interest in Gonzalez is to add depth at Charlotte in case an injury or failure happens to the Sox rotation. I really don't think there's anything more to read into it other than that. Gonzalez reminds me a bit of Jeremy Guthrie as far as pitch selection (FB/SL/CB) and statistical results. When Guthrie was on, he could be tough but when he was off, he was serving up batting practice on a tee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) you are not looking at the big picture, you are thinking figuratively and not in the general terms. if the sox wanted to sell more tickets, then they would have gotten a marque player, whether that be a sp or not. but to give the appearance that the sox care about winning and making the fans happy, they do the little things to tweak the team, like signing MG ...... while at the same time keeping looking at the profit margin..... If the Sox had a marquee RF, people still wouldn't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) If the Sox had a marquee RF, people still wouldn't go. They had a Hall of Fame 1B, and they barely went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) This is absolutely not true. They love bringing in reclamation projects, and do it on a very regular basis. and why would someone bring in a reclamation project, ..... to save $$$ if successful. right now, the sox have 115 mil at the season opener for 2016 season. also to make another point, the sox have assembled a great team for 115 with a possibility of 2 weak points in the starting rotation and lineup. now trying to give the appearance of the sox continuing to improve to give that impression. the sox 2016 team is almost as good as the northside. the northside team is starting the season with 166 mil invested. now all the sox have to due is win, get on a hot streak and have a kickarse media dept to promote the hell out of this team, the smart way. saving money on the front end will really improve the profit margin.... again as i have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) and why would someone bring in a reclamation project, ..... to save $$$ if successful. right now, the sox have 115 mil at the season opener for 2016 season. also to make another point, the sox have assembled a great team for 115 with a possibility of 2 weak points in the starting rotation and lineup. now trying to give the appearance of the sox continuing to improve to give that impression. the sox 2016 team is almost as good as the northside. the northside team is starting the season with 166 mil invested. now all the sox have to due is win, get on a hot streak and have a kickarse media dept to promote the hell out of this team, the smart way. saving money on the front end will really improve the profit margin.... again as i have said. What the Cubs do doesn't matter. This is a bad post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) If the Sox had a marquee RF, people still wouldn't go. and how can you judge that ..... thru some sort of premonition??? again, this team was added to, to improve the overall product on the field. do you think so little of fans that they can not see that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) What the Cubs do doesn't matter. This is a bad post. no it has everything to do with it, the sox competition is the northsiders and the media and hype that they bring in. the sox are in constant competition with that hype. that is why they needed to do what they did, b/c there is another baseball product that is sharing chi media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) and how can you judge that ..... thru some sort of premonition??? again, this team was added to, to improve the overall product on the field. do you think so little of fans that they can not see that??? Yes I do. White Sox fans don't go to baseball games. There are many reasons. We are a bunch of fickle excuse makers. If Cespedes were in RF, it wouldn't really affect attendance at all unless they were winning consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 10:04 AM) no it has everything to do with it, the sox competition is the northsiders and the media and hype that they bring in. the sox are in constant competition with that hype. that is why they needed to do what they did, b/c there is another baseball product that is sharing chi media. The Cubs and White Sox are not rivals. They don't matter. This is old, bad thinking. What the Royals, Twins, Indians, and Tigers do is what matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 04:04 PM) Yes I do. White Sox fans don't go to baseball games. There are many reasons. We are a bunch of fickle excuse makers. If Cespedes were in RF, it wouldn't really affect attendance at all unless they were winning consistently. if if if.... that is a ready built in excuse. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2016 -> 10:06 AM) if if if.... that is a ready built in excuse. .. I think I'm done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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