VAfan Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Looking a little deeper into his splits in baseball reference, he was tremendous in high leverage situations, and in the 8th inning. This further supports my suggestion. What I think was misuse was how many times he was put into games where we were behind. He absolutely needs to be in the A category of relievers to use to preserve leads, and should never really be used if we are behind more than a run or two. That's a waste. As for the fact he can go for more than one inning, yes he can. But what would be more valuable to the Sox? An 8th inning pitcher who almost never gets scored on, doesn't walk guys, and has a great WHIP? Or a guy you can get more than an inning out of if the starter can't last? Give me the former EVERY time! KC should have shown everyone by now the value of a shutdown bullpen. Albers needs to be given the chance to be more in the middle of that than on the fringes, where he has been up to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) In my mind: DRob > Jones > Albers > Duke > Putnam > Jennings > Petricka Man you guys really hate Petricka. I'd put him above Duke and Jennings easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Man you guys really hate Petricka. I'd put him above Duke and Jennings easily. He's just mediocre. A 3.76 xfip, average fastball is 93 MPH, and over 3 walks per 9 innings last year. He is what he is. Has some decent movement that makes up for lack of pure velocity out of the pen but walks way too many guys and doesn't miss enough bats to be a high leverage reliever. I'd use him against RHP before Duke, but I'd probably rate Jennings as a little better just because he misses more bats. They both have issues with walks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (VAfan @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) Looking a little deeper into his splits in baseball reference, he was tremendous in high leverage situations, and in the 8th inning. This further supports my suggestion. What I think was misuse was how many times he was put into games where we were behind. He absolutely needs to be in the A category of relievers to use to preserve leads, and should never really be used if we are behind more than a run or two. That's a waste. As for the fact he can go for more than one inning, yes he can. But what would be more valuable to the Sox? An 8th inning pitcher who almost never gets scored on, doesn't walk guys, and has a great WHIP? Or a guy you can get more than an inning out of if the starter can't last? Give me the former EVERY time! KC should have shown everyone by now the value of a shutdown bullpen. Albers needs to be given the chance to be more in the middle of that than on the fringes, where he has been up to now. Thats fine. If they have another person who can pitch those innings. Of course its more valuable to habe the better pitcher in the more important situation taken in isolation. But it also hurts the team for the next 2 games if they need to use three pitchers to cover the innings, especially with the 4 and 5 starters coming up and very few off days coming up. You cant burn the bullpen early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) He's just mediocre. A 3.76 xfip, average fastball is 93 MPH, and over 3 walks per 9 innings last year. He is what he is. Has some decent movement that makes up for lack of pure velocity out of the pen but walks way too many guys and doesn't miss enough bats to be a high leverage reliever. I'd use him against RHP before Duke, but I'd probably rate Jennings as a little better just because he misses more bats. They both have issues with walks. Patrick's Hits/Walks to K rate is really bad. He doesn't strike anyone out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) Patrick's Hits/Walks to K rate is really bad. He doesn't strike anyone out. Because he doesn't have an out pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) He's just mediocre. A 3.76 xfip, average fastball is 93 MPH, and over 3 walks per 9 innings last year. He is what he is. Has some decent movement that makes up for lack of pure velocity out of the pen but walks way too many guys and doesn't miss enough bats to be a high leverage reliever. I'd use him against RHP before Duke, but I'd probably rate Jennings as a little better just because he misses more bats. They both have issues with walks. I'm not a fan or anything, but he's definitely a viable 6th or 7th inning guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) I'm not a fan or anything, but he's definitely a viable 6th or 7th inning guy. Ideally he's the 6th inning guy with the talent around him. It's nice that he's pushed down so far. Seems like lately his type has been the 7th inning guy for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Ptatc is exactly right. The Sox don't have long men and Albers can go multiples. He isn't going to be the 8th inning guy. Besides you might not even want him in the 6th inning a couple of weeks from now. Look how long it took for Jones to go from a lock down set up guy who Robin didn't know how to use, to a mediocre guy with issues. Less than 24 hours. Edited April 6, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 6, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Ptatc is exactly right. The Sox don't have long men and Albers can go multiples. He isn't going to be the 8th inning guy. Besides you might not even want him in the 6th inning a couple of weeks from now. Look how long it took for Jones to go from a lock down set up guy who Robin didn't know how to use, to a mediocre guy with issues. Less than 24 hours. He isn't going to be the 8th inning guy because the White Sox brass don't always see what's best for the team! And I'm going off Albers' 30 starts from last season. Seems like enough of a track record to change they way he's used. If he fails in the new role, you can always go back to using him in the way the Sox have. But the Sox really need to find a way to lock down close games in which they are ahead from the 7th-9th innings at least. That's what KC did, and it propelled them to back-to-back WS appearances without a great starting staff. Albers was being wasted last year by being used in twice as many games where we were behind versus being tied or ahead. The BEST bullpen guys need to be used mostly in games we have the best chance of winning. Albers is clearly performing like one of our best bullpen arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 They finally noticed Albers in a post over on Southside Sox. He had another 2 innings to shut the door on Cleveland. Keep it up Matt!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashFan Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I was thinking this yesterday watching the game. Matt Albers may be the most underrated player on this team. His stuff is solid with late movement, velocity is up, but more importantly - he enters games with this quiet intensity from the bullpen. Not this shakiness you see from some of the other relievers. I don't know if he's the 2nd best reliever - he may be - but should definitely be considered 3rd at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Man you guys really hate Petricka. I'd put him above Duke and Jennings easily. If you're arguing over whether Petricka or Jennings is your worst reliever then you have a pretty good bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 1m1 minute ago Matt Albers' scoreless streak of 30 innings is the longest by a #WhiteSox pitcher since Wilson Alvarez had 31 in 1993. He can thank Adam Eaton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 1m1 minute ago Matt Albers' scoreless streak of 30 innings is the longest by a #WhiteSox pitcher since Wilson Alvarez had 31 in 1993. He can thank Adam Eaton! That was Latos' guy on second. Edited April 20, 2016 by SouthSideSale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 1m1 minute ago Matt Albers' scoreless streak of 30 innings is the longest by a #WhiteSox pitcher since Wilson Alvarez had 31 in 1993. He can thank Adam Eaton! As mentioned above this post, it wouldn't have counted against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 But my point was that there would have been one fewer out, and a runner on, which could have resulted in a run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Let's rename this "Cat Albers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 People so need to start bringing stuffed cats to game for when Latos pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 06:11 AM) Let's rename this "Cat Albers" This needs to become the Matt Albers celebration video thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 05:48 AM) This needs to become the Matt Albers celebration video thread It need to be pinned ! " Fuking Like A CAt !!!! He almost knocked Big Avi over with the high 5 and I think that's Robin he passes up near the end in the sweatshirt , Robin puts his head down like he doesn't want anyone seeing him grinning ear to ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Avi looked genuinely afraid of that maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) Avi looked genuinely afraid of that maniac. I'd be afraid if that runaway train was moving in my direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That was just his clever way of changing his nickname from Fat Albers to Cat Albers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Can "f***ING LIKE A CAT" be this year's version of "STIR THE DRINK"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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