bmags Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Quintana is not as hard luck as everyone likes to make him out to be. He often causes these problems himself. I know it's unfair and nonsensical, but I definitely feel with Quintana like the worst thing you can give him is a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (joegraz @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Ummm....Duh? You're the one complaining about Hawk being in the booth "I thought he was doing away games only." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (joegraz @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Ummm....Duh? :drink :drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (joegraz @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Ummm....Duh? Ummm....you were the one confused that Hawk was in the booth, and you answered your own question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Great pitch in on the fists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:32 PM) I know it's unfair and nonsensical, but I definitely feel with Quintana like the worst thing you can give him is a lead. It's hard to tell, because he rarely gets that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) Ummm....you were the one confused that Hawk was in the booth, and you answered your own question The original post seems to make much more sense now......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 You are talking about a guy that has been in the top 17 pitchers for three full seasons in a row for worst run support in the AL. If that isn't bad luck, I don't know what is. He definitely has "bad luck", more so than most pitchers, but its usually in the form of garbage defense. There are many games where the Sox have given Quintana a lead and Quintana hasn't held it. Maybe its been only a 1 or 2 run lead, but a top 20 pitcher holds that lead more often than not IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 This is quite the battle here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:36 PM) He definitely has "bad luck", more so than most pitchers, but its usually in the form of garbage defense. There are many games where the Sox have given Quintana a lead and Quintana hasn't held it. Maybe its been only a 1 or 2 run lead, but a top 20 pitcher holds that lead more often than not IMO. Yeah until you link to the boxscores of all these numerous leads Quintana has blown, I'm not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 good job limiting the inning Q, nice K on Escobar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Finally a call from the ump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Nice job getting out of that giving up only one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 run not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizeguy57 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Time to knock Gibson out and get in to that Twins bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:39 PM) Yeah until you link to the boxscores of all these numerous leads Quintana has blown, I'm not buying it. I think he throws too many pitches and does not go deep enough into games as much as he should. It is valid argument it is not like he said he stinks just that the woo is me thing is a bit of his own doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBatadatz Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) Ummm....you were the one confused that Hawk was in the booth, and you answered your own question That was a self deprecating "Duh". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Q almost prevented them from scoring there. Nice job after the leadoff walk and the bad pitch to Plouffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:36 PM) He definitely has "bad luck", more so than most pitchers, but its usually in the form of garbage defense. There are many games where the Sox have given Quintana a lead and Quintana hasn't held it. Maybe its been only a 1 or 2 run lead, but a top 20 pitcher holds that lead more often than not IMO. Yeah, I'd hardly call blowing a 1-0 lead to lose 2-1, fair. If he gets normal run support in most games, those "blown leads" aren't even thought about. Perfect counter example, Chris Sale gets a 2-0 lead, blows it. He is down 3-2. But the offense comes back and gets him 5 more runs, and no one cares. Those things magnify more when you don't get run support. When you get run support, no one remembers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Abreu didn't chase and takes a walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 This ump just loves calling the inside corner for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 This ump is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:30 PM) Quintana is not as hard luck as everyone likes to make him out to be. He often causes these problems himself. He's not a perfect pitcher, no pitcher is. He'll get in trouble here and there, but the problem is that our offense usually doesn't give him big enough leads (or leads at all) to give him a cushion for mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Apr 11, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) I think he throws too many pitches and does not go deep enough into games as much as he should. It is valid argument it is not like he said he stinks just that the woo is me thing is a bit of his own doing. He's 13th in IP among all pitchers from 2013-2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 lmao that third pitch to Frazier looks half a foot inside on pitch trax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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