BaconOnAStick Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Scott Downs. I'll say it agian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:24 PM) If the game is on the line and it's a huge AB, you pinch hit Navarro. But you can't completely protect a player from getting AB's against pitchers they're bad at hitting. Or you pinch hit Sands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Duke is easily an unlikable reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) What's your source for the odds of someone getting hurt to be 1%? I'm not going to waste my time compiling stats of catchers who get injured in the 7th inning or later, but I'd bet everything possible that the odds are less than 1%. If you are unable to see that, then that's not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Duke does this the day an article is released about him "relieved" by LaRoche's status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 How many times has Duke come in this year, given up a hit or walk to a lefty then promptly removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Just missed that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 08:25 PM) I'm not going to waste my time compiling stats of catchers who get injured in the 7th inning or later, but I'd bet everything possible that the odds are less than 1%. If you are unable to see that, then that's not my problem. You can't claim that then if you won't do the work lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Or you pinch hit Sands But then Navarro would have to be subbed in at catcher anyway, giving you guys your injury risk problem again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I thought that was an upper deck shot based on the camerawork lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) You can't claim that then if you won't do the work lol If you can't use critical thinking skills to think of every time you have seen a catcher leave the game with an injury after the 7th inning, and consider how rare it is, then that's on you. Sorry I don't have time to do the research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) I thought that was an upper deck shot based on the camerawork lol same, this camera work has been very weird today overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) What's your source for the odds of someone getting hurt to be 1%? Especially when you consider how many games Avila alone has lost due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:15 PM) But again, the chances of that injury happening are far less than 1%. The chances of MN coming back, scoring 3+ runs, and that AB meaning something, are more than 1%. ABSOLUTE worst-case scenario, Navarro gets hurt in the 2.5 innings, and we have to go with Saladino/Lawrie at catcher (since they used to be catchers), but the odds of that happening are puny. Navarro getting hurt would be an unsolvable disaster for the game. You are introducing a worst case scenario that costs you the game, in exchange for a reward that really isnt that large at all when you are up 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) But then Navarro would have to be subbed in at catcher anyway, giving you guys your injury risk problem again Yeah I know but who is better against LHP is the question at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:29 PM) Especially when you consider how many games Avila alone has lost due to injury. We are discussing Navarro though. If the situation were flipped, I'd be more wary, but Navarro is a switch-hitter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) If you can't use critical thinking skills to think of every time you have seen a catcher leave the game with an injury after the 7th inning, and consider how rare it is, then that's on you. Sorry I don't have time to do the research. Critical thinking skills would tell you not to take risks that could be monumentally stupid either. The odds of something bad happening are somewhere. The downside of it actually happening are huge. #1 you turn the game you are into an almost certain loss by putting a guy behind the plate who is 100% not equipped to catch a baseball at the major league level. The odds of you getting hurt on a motorcycle without a helmet on any one ride are very small. But that one time that an accident happens and your brains are splattered all over the pavement is the wrong time to realize why playing those odds is a dumb idea. It is the same reason you have home owners insurance against fires and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 08:28 PM) If you can't use critical thinking skills to think of every time you have seen a catcher leave the game with an injury after the 7th inning, and consider how rare it is, then that's on you. Sorry I don't have time to do the research. LOL puhlease Edited April 14, 2016 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Oh Abreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) We expected that Rollins, Avila, Jackson and Garcia weren't going to set the world on fire. Had no idea about Danks and Latos (well, maybe a PRETTY good idea on JD 50). The funny thing is if you could just re-start the 2014-15 offseason and purge Beckham, Duke, Bonifacio, Samardzija, LaRoche and Cabrera (basically, Robertson is the only one who has come close to earning his money, but he's tied for the highest paid closer in baseball fwiw)...you would have the White Sox in a position to be one of the best teams in baseball. As it is now, it's going to be a huge battle with KC plugging along and Detroit decidedly improved. Edited April 14, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 09:35 PM) As it is now, it's going to be a huge battle with KC plugging along and Detroit decidedly improved. Sox have the best staff in the division and only need a league average offense to contend. They also have pieces not named Anderson or Fulmer to move at the deadline for help in the OF and a top 50 prospect to step in for Rollins in the near future as well. Sox should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxjr27 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1,2,3. Boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Great inning Nate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Easily most efficient outing of Jones' career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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