Harry Chappas Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Not to jump the gun but the only guys I would really like to see next year are Bartolo Colon, Loiaza, Garland and Buerhle. If our hitters were that good we wouldn't be in this place. Ordonez, Thomas, Lee, Konerko, Valentin, and Everett can all be traded. I watched the Twins and they have not a single player in their lineup with stats that can compared to our top hitters yet they know how to win. I have a feeling we overestimate greatly what we have. I'll take Frank Thomas with 30 homers and 110 walks over 40 homers and 110 K's anybody know the last time a homerun champ won a world series? Take a cue from Sammy, homers are pretty but wins are what count. I hate Sosa but his two run shot Tuesday won the game. Start with Manuel and Williams and go from there. Pitching and defense wins not pitching and untimely home run, me only guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 There was actually a tread about next season going on yesterday. Everett can not be traded, he's a FA. The biggest thing next year is money. I see your point about our inflated stats yet not being able to win, it's just unlucky. Look at the Red Sox. They crush the ball, and are going to win the AL Wild Card. We just need timely hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 You can't let your entire lineup go or trade em, you'd be building from scratch...i think that's taking it way too far. I don't know if you are going to get many better hitters than frank, lee, maggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I don't know if you are going to get many better hitters than frank, lee, maggs Frank was good before he became a fence-swinging-power-hitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 The division will be up for grabs again next year given the twinkies will no way be bringing back a lot of their stud relievers This division will be easy to win again next year.....can we have enough players retained to win it is the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 The division will be up for grabs again next year given the twinkies will no way be bringing back a lot of their stud relievers This division will be easy to win again next year.....can we have enough players retained to win it is the question actually the question should be will we have someone with balls enough to want to win to lead them......... (whoever them may be)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 18, 2003 Author Share Posted September 18, 2003 You can't let your entire lineup go or trade em, you'd be building from scratch...i think that's taking it way too far. I don't know if you are going to get many better hitters than frank, lee, maggs The problem I have is that I do not think the hitters are as good as we are making them out to be. If you can trade a Carlos Lee for a Juan Pierre do you do it? The most glaring example of the make-up of our team costing us a game was the bases clearing triple last week. Ordonez and Everett did not get to that ball. The center and left fiedlder on the Twins both would have. I feel that Ordonez does not go all out in the outfield and pulls up on some balls he could get to. We have a weak make-up and lack of direction on the theory of playing the game. I am not avocating trading guys for nothing I just feel that if we are going to have a $45M payroll, spending $14M on Ordonez instead of $10M on a top flight pitcher and $4 on an average hard nosed rightfielder doesn't makes sense. I like Ordonez and feel he brings a-lot to the table but that fact is we are not winning with what we have. We lose too many games by not scoring runs to pay the money to the hitters that we do. How many clutch hits have we gotten compared to GIDP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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