southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I think Steve Stone said it best last night. "If that isn't interference, I don't know what is." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Umpiring has been really bad league wide, but this year it feels personal against the Sox. I don't remember the last time the Sox won a challenge, seems like every questioned challenge against the Sox they have lost, and have had a couple incidents like last night really hurt the outcome of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ May 18, 2016 -> 07:31 AM) Umpiring has been really bad league wide, but this year it feels personal against the Sox. I don't remember the last time the Sox won a challenge, seems like every questioned challenge against the Sox they have lost, and have had a couple incidents like last night really hurt the outcome of the game. The home plate upping is far and away the worst I've ever seen. I don't know what has happened there. Did they tell the ups to call a different style or have different emphasis? I cannot explain it. Every game seemingly has resulted in a terrible home plate ump. And to be fair it seems like that is league wide. Not just for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Okay there was a lot of back and forth about the rule in the game thread. However the umpires not responsible for Albers completely losing it 3 games in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (harkness @ May 18, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) Okay there was a lot of back and forth about the rule in the game thread. However the umpires not responsible for Albers completely losing it 3 games in a row. I'm pretty sure it was an 0-2 pitch Gattis hit. Albers seemed spotless early, now it seems he just can't get over the hump the last couple outings. He seems to be one pitch from getting out of it and can't deliver. Probably the reason he was relegated to the 11th inning yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Awful call, but the sox had so many opportunities they missed that they need to capitalize on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 18, 2016 -> 06:35 AM) At the very least the umps should have huddled and talked about it, but nothing I was by the Sox on deck circle and Robin did ask if he would ask for help. The umpire refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) I was by the Sox on deck circle and Robin did ask if he would ask for help. The umpire refused. my comment wasnt meant to pin it on Robin, it was obvious the home ump made up his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:09 AM) my comment wasnt meant to pin it on Robin, it was obvious the home ump made up his mind. I wasn't suggesting it was. Just stating the umpire refused to discuss it with anyone which to me is ridiculous, even though the non call wouldn't have changed. What I don't understand about umpires is when a call is made and a manager argues to have it discussed, then they discuss it and change the call, wouldn't that be the exact opposite of "trying to get it right/" If the manager never argued, the umpire(s) who saw the call differently enough to get it changed just bite their tongue. I would like one time for umpires to have a discussion at the request of another umpire, not the manager. Edited May 18, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Words can't do justice to the rage I've felt at umps this year - from the strike zone to the downright incorrect application of baseball rules - so I'll just say this: ASEOASDVBASTJABVLAKDUQWQ234ADJIVAASDFSDGASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (harkness @ May 18, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) Okay there was a lot of back and forth about the rule in the game thread. However the umpires not responsible for Albers completely losing it 3 games in a row. Any time you ask for your pitchers to get your four outs in an inning, you are just begging for trouble. The Sox had it happen 3 times yesterday, including the blown call. The had runs scored against them twice because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sure, the Sox absolutely should have put that game away before the 11th inning, and Albers should make a better pitch on 0-2. I just want the umpires to do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:58 AM) Sure, the Sox absolutely should have put that game away before the 11th inning, and Albers should make a better pitch on 0-2. I just want the umpires to do their jobs. It wasnt an awful pitch but it was a horrible call. You could tell he was adjusting to that down and in 2 seamer with his practice swing. Going back down there was moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Frustrating (non)call, but WTF is Albers about lately? Edited May 18, 2016 by Swingandalongonetoleft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 18, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) It wasnt an awful pitch but it was a horrible call. You could tell he was adjusting to that down and in 2 seamer with his practice swing. Going back down there was moronic. Albers is getting in trouble because every pitch is on the same plane. Needs to do a better job of changing the eye level of the hitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2016 -> 09:45 AM) Albers is getting in trouble because every pitch is on the same plane. Needs to do a better job of changing the eye level of the hitter Agreed. You just knew he was going back down there and so did the hitter. He needs to elevate those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Unfortunately the team can't handle too much bad luck. Their margin of winning is too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (staxx @ May 18, 2016 -> 06:00 AM) Awful call, but the sox had so many opportunities they missed that they need to capitalize on. Bottom line this team keeps battling but the bullpen has really let them down as has the defense more recently and just two out runs. Got to get the positive mojo rolling again. No better day than now to start a nice winning streak!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Tex @ May 18, 2016 -> 10:15 AM) Unfortunately the team can't handle too much bad luck. Their margin of winning is too small. I don't even know what this means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ May 18, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) Frustrating (non)call, but WTF is Albers about lately? Regressing to the mean. He'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 18, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) I don't even know what this means. That was phrased wrong. Everything needs to go right for this team to make the playoffs. Bad calls (luck) working against then may be the grain of sand that tilts the scale to losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 18, 2016 -> 05:19 AM) How come other teams replay every f***ing thing imaginable and get every review they ask for and we can't do s***? This may have already been answered but it was not a reviewable call. Ventura made his case and the ump didn't change his mind. The ump blew it for sure. Albers then made a two strike pitch mistake and that was it. Our bullpen has been bad the last few games and only Sale has saved us. But, Robertson looked good. Albers has blown like three in a row now. We were in all those games though and I believe things will straighten out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 18, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) This may have already been answered but it was not a reviewable call. Ventura made his case and the ump didn't change his mind. The ump blew it for sure. Albers then made a two strike pitch mistake and that was it. Our bullpen has been bad the last few games and only Sale has saved us. But, Robertson looked good. Albers has blown like three in a row now. We were in all those games though and I believe things will straighten out. Duke blew a game too. You could say Putnam did last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2016 -> 03:45 PM) Albers is getting in trouble because every pitch is on the same plane. Needs to do a better job of changing the eye level of the hitter It's time to quit using him so much. He's pitched himself out of that role for now. Gulp, use the other guys more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 18, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) This may have already been answered but it was not a reviewable call. Ventura made his case and the ump didn't change his mind. The ump blew it for sure. Albers then made a two strike pitch mistake and that was it. Our bullpen has been bad the last few games and only Sale has saved us. But, Robertson looked good. Albers has blown like three in a row now. We were in all those games though and I believe things will straighten out. He wouldn't have been asking for a review, but for the umpires to actually talk about it among themselves. That way if the base umpires saw something that they thought was interference he could tell the home ump, and then he call interference, and call the base runner out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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