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QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 20, 2016 -> 11:01 PM)
Seriously, get over the Cubs. This is Soxtalk. There's an MLB forum for that trash.

 

 

I was answering a question about this lazy journalism stuff. Facts are facts whether you want to see them or not. Cubs will be shoved down our throats until we do something about it, or they start sucking again.

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QUOTE (whitesox91403 @ May 21, 2016 -> 05:15 AM)
I don't post much but as much as I want to say we're done, I think this team showed too much in April/early May to just suddenly go bad. As soon as they won last night I felt like tonight would be a loss. The next 6 games are going to be very crucial. I'm on the ledge but they did so many things right and showed to be good enough to think they'll get thru this.

 

Fingers crossed.

One big problem. This season is just how the bullpen has gone the last several seasons. Pretty good early then rotten. The bullpen was lights out early. Albers was having the kind of year the Royals bullpen guys have had. Now he is meat. Our other guys were fine and David R was unhittable. Really the only one worth a s*** now is David.

And the starting pitching has come down to earth. When we were winning every series, almost every game, we had four starters who were all way above average. Now we got two starters doing well and poor Q's outing tonight was reminiscent of last year's outings vs. KC. Good only two times through the order.

We shall see. I'm worried about lack of power in the lineup and the pitching.

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QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ May 20, 2016 -> 11:24 PM)
I was answering a question about this lazy journalism stuff. Facts are facts whether you want to see them or not. Cubs will be shoved down our throats until we do something about it, or they start sucking again.

He's got a point...doesn't matter if this is Soxtalk, we still have to deal with the pieces of s*** on the Northside.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 20, 2016 -> 10:41 PM)
Yes but we swept a meaningless 3 game series late vs. KC. It was 6-1 before that.

 

 

When the Sox are the real Sox (not the team that started 23-10) it seems they waste so many run scoring situations.

 

 

This is huge, folks!! You've got to whack a lot of home runs to win. Only way we were gonna survive that was with the big four pitching as they did during our amazing April, first week of May). Sale, Q, Rodon and Latos were lights out! Had me dreaming of a WS vs. the Cubs.

 

 

Mental midgets since Robin brought in Carroll. If Carroll isn't on this team, I don't think we blow a 5-run lead with six outs to go. As expected, that was the season (til the Sox prove otherwise).

 

 

Year after year it seems that is always the case. Chen, all those stiffs the Twins trot out against us (prior to this year and half of last year).

 

 

Surprised nobody mentioned the Royals showing their supremacy by hitting their hated nemesis, Lawrie. Royals beaned him and said in effect, "f*** you Lawrie. f*** you White Sox. We are here to sweep your ass." Of course we didn't immediately retaliate. IMO the Royals won the series when they hit Lawrie and set the tone of WS champ beating the first place pretenderes.

 

 

So far mental midgets since the Texas disaster. The LaRoche haters need to turn over the dinner table.

 

 

How can anybody argue with Fathom on this? Mr. Sale? Please lead us and kick some clubhouse ass.

 

 

True. I think we all hate to see us blow the big lead so quickly ... even though, seriously, the standings mean LITTLE to nothing until mid July for goshsakes.

 

 

I have a pet peeve tonight. I watched the game (sparing you my angry commentary on purpose) tonight and the Sox were b****ing about strikes. That pitch Frazier b****ed about was a f***ing strike. That last pitch to Eaton was a f***ing strike. I love Adam, but hey, swing at a pitch that close with two strikes. I do not think the ump was that bad.

 

My own obsesrvation ... I despised Melky last year, but when he was hitting .320 I was pushing for him to bat second. Still wouldn't mind him there. Folks ... having Abreu bat second is just stupid and silly.

I read the entire game thread and commented on the posts that intrigued me. I really feel I'm right on my posts. Comments?

Let me just say that there are significant holes - catcher, relief and starting pitching to say the least. The Sox also need a home run bat and lack some power. Abreu is not feared and everyone is in a slump right now. They need some home runs, more consistent pitching and guys to wake the f*** up. They need to win at least six of the next 11 to stay in this thing...it could be a huge blow if they perform poorly. Long term, guys like Jackson, both catchers, Latos, some relievers and a few others will go and they'll need to add again. I almost feel like they need to spend like crazy next offseason in free agency or make some moves to get younger and shake things up.

 

It's still "early," but this is getting ugly. I'm going tomorrow and hope that Gonzalez doesn't get lit up.

 

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QUOTE (SpankyEaton @ May 21, 2016 -> 04:35 AM)
Let me just say that there are significant holes - catcher, relief and starting pitching to say the least. The Sox also need a home run bat and lack some power. Abreu is not feared and everyone is in a slump right now. They need some home runs, more consistent pitching and guys to wake the f*** up. They need to win at least six of the next 11 to stay in this thing...it could be a huge blow if they perform poorly. Long term, guys like Jackson, both catchers, Latos, some relievers and a few others will go and they'll need to add again. I almost feel like they need to spend like crazy next offseason in free agency or make some moves to get younger and shake things up.

 

It's still "early," but this is getting ugly. I'm going tomorrow and hope that Gonzalez doesn't get lit up.

 

Cleveland, with its good manager, is tied with us in the loss column. It all starts over right now. It's pretty bad when you are at home finally and go 1-3 and are lucky to win the one. Tonight the bases loaded and one out in the second off a stiff like Gee, you got to get a big hit not one paltry run. Pathetic 4-1 loss with trouble abrewin' tomorrow and Sunday. And why didn't Q hit one of the Royals in retaliation?? WTF right there.

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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ May 20, 2016 -> 08:59 PM)
I know you've said this a couple times and if that inning is causing this collapse then they were mental midgits to begin with anyway and it really was a fluke start. I doubt this team is this bad,just really frustrating to see after the hot start.

 

Also it's been a long time the Sox ever had a hot start.

 

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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 20, 2016 -> 10:08 PM)
Ventura is now 28-48 in his career against the Royals. LET'S GIVE HIM A CONTRACT EXTENSION!!!!!! LOL.

 

Mark

 

Hopefully Hahn can see that maybe they need people outside the organization. Whether Robin deserves it or not being an outside may be the best thing. I don't really believe this organization will succeed until the Reinsdorf Regime is gone. So much needs to be gutted in this organization.

 

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8-22 at home against your new top rival over the last 30 games there is pretty hard to look past.

 

For those suggesting we can spend our way out of this, it's definitely not going to happen the next free agent cycle. There's too much money chasing too little talent.

 

The year after that, half of the free agent class is made up of Royals. Hosmer, Moustakas, Cain, Escobar, Volquez and Wade Davis. I highly doubt we're going to overpay for any of those guys, and the only ones clearly on the right side of 30 are going to be Moustakas and Hosmer (both of them are on pace for pretty big contracts from someone else).

 

 

As for the last White Sox April/May start where they were doing comparatively well, it was 2006 and of course 2005. 2000, too.

For the remainder of the past decade, they've been at .500 or below coming out of the gate in April.

 

 

If Cleveland was 5-1 or 4-2 against the Twins instead of 3-3, they'd already be in first place. Our 6-0 mark against MN is the one remaining bright spot providing us some separation.

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