Panerista Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Sources: MLB moves toward changing strike zone A new strike zone could be on baseball's horizon and the old-fashioned intentional walk could be a thing of the past after both were agreed to by the competition committee at Major League Baseball's owners meetings this week, sources said. The potentially dramatic changes could be in effect by next season. The committee agreed on a motion to effectively raise the lower part of the strike zone to the top of the hitter's knees, sources said. The current rules stipulate that the zone begins at "the hollow beneath the kneecap," but the change is a reaction to a trend by umpires to call strikes on an increasing number of pitches below the knees. The change in the intentional-walk rule would end the traditional practice of requiring the pitcher to lob four balls outside the strike zone. Instead, a team could signify it wants to issue an intentional walk, and the hitter would be immediately sent to first base, sources said. The two changes can't go into effect unless they are approved by baseball's playing rules committee, which is chaired by New York Mets general manager Sandy Alderson and made up of a cross-section of baseball executives. Sources said the changes would also be presented to the MLB Players Association as part of negotiations for a new labor agreement. However, the playing rules committee isn't required to have the union sign off on the changes. So they could take effect next season whether or not the union agrees to them. Both changes are designed to address concerns by commissioner Rob Manfred and others about pace of play and one of the commissioner's favorite terms, "pace of action." The end of the traditional intentional walk would eliminate dead time. However, the adjustment in the strike zone is designed to produce more balls in play, more baserunners and more action at a time when nearly 30 percent of hitters in the average game either walk or strike out, the highest rate of "non-action" in history. Mets second baseman Neil Walker voiced support Friday night for raising the bottom of the strike zone. "I think if you ask hitters, most of the complaints they would have would be about low strikes," he said. "They're probably the hardest to call for umpires, and catchers have gotten so good at presenting them." However, he also said he thinks the new strike zone would lead to more walks rather than balls in play. "As a hitter, when you see the ball out of the pitcher's hand and it's going to be down, you usually think about taking it, because it's harder to do damage with that pitch," he said. "Us as hitters, we want that ball up, thigh or mid-thigh." If the change agreed to by the competition committee takes effect, it would raise the the lower part of the strike zone to the top of the hitter's knees, sources said. Chicago Cubs manager Joe Maddon said he's in favor of anything that gets his team more walks but also said he isn't sure the proposed change to the strike zone would help put more balls in play. "Guys might take more pitches, and you're still going to get a walk," he said. "It might benefit a team like us if they call it that way because the biggest thing about us would be an umpire that doesn't expand our strike zone. That's what we'd love to have. "If you're going to shorten the strike zone, it can be counterproductive. If a guy is pitching down below that and we're just taking them, you're going to get less action. It's one of those things that you have to put it in play to answer the question." Maddon also raised a concern about eliminating the traditional intentional walk. "By taking that away, there is the potential that a wild pitch could occur that could impact the game. And I've seen it happen," he said. The Cubs manager is among those who are less concerned about the pace of play. "When it comes down to the game itself, I'm not so pent up on moments like that, however many seconds that takes to get that done," he said. ESPN Cubs reporter Jesse Rogers and ESPN stringer Danny Knobler contributed to this report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I agree with Maddon about the Intentional Walk. That needs to stay the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ May 23, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) I agree with Maddon about the Intentional Walk. That needs to stay the way it is. Nah. Just move them along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I was thinking first about all the possibilities during an intentional walk, wild pitches, ducking back and throwing a strike, stealing home, etc. Then I realize I couldn't remember when I had seen any of those. Pass them on. As far as the strike zone, isn't calling more strikes speeding up the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Execution matters. Hate the IBB change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CrimsonWeltall Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Old IBB process is slow and unnecessary. Give them the base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Vladimir Guerrero would of not been happy hearing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 The intentional walk is like a double switch. It's just heavily overvalued. Throwing four pitches isn't necessary. Put the guy on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ May 23, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) Old IBB process is slow and unnecessary. Give them the base. If you're trying to speed the game up, doing what they did with IBB is exactly what you should do. I know they don't happen that often, but shortening a game by 30 seconds to a minute is at least doing something about the length of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) If you're trying to speed the game up, doing what they did with IBB is exactly what you should do. I know they don't happen that often, but shortening a game by 30 seconds to a minute is at least doing something about the length of games. Severely limit mound visits and warm up pitches would help, but pitching changes inject commercials into the proceedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The truly innovative things that would need to be done would so enrage purists and a lot of the average fans. Instead of 4 balls and 3 strikes make it 3-2 or even 3-3. Put pitchers on a pitch clock, add or subtract time by having runners on base. Limit pitching changes in a couple ways. Relievers must pitch to a minimum of 2 batters. Except for extra inning games, limit a team to three or four pitchers. To truly get the average game down by 15 minutes, which is where it needs to be, major changes would have to take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 This is going to force the high fastball back into vogue. Most major leaguers can't hit that with the upper cut swing that is used by most players today. I wonder if those move backfires and quietly goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 They never call the low strike anyway. This is stupid. Umps have been enforcing their own strike zone forever. The strike zone is so small already it's unbelievable. Sometimes a belt high pitch is too high. Personally if they had a huge strike zone it would make these guys swing more and cut down on walks. I don't get this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 24, 2016 -> 12:17 AM) The intentional walk is like a double switch. It's just heavily overvalued. Throwing four pitches isn't necessary. Put the guy on base. Kahnle threw one wild pitch vs. the Royals on an intentional walk and about did it again on the second intentional walk. First time I'd ever seen that. He was not flipping the ball in there but gunning it in there. Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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