caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=m...layer_id=605182 Mike Clevinger. RHP. Making his second big league start. Gave up 4 ER in 5 IP last time out (debut). Doesn't have dramatic RHB vs. LHP splits. Has the Colby Rasmus/Lincecum/Shark/Syndergaard flowing locks. http://www.letsgotribe.com/2016/5/18/11693...couting-reports Clevinger has a changeup that has become his most effective swing and miss pitch, and is probably the best overall pitch in his arsenal. He also has a slider that is very effective in forcing groundballs. Clevinger's final pitch in his arsenal is a 12-6 curveball, just to throw something very off-speed and get batter's unbalanced, that became his two-strike pitch just prior to the injury. According to an Angels scout, all four of Clevinger's pitches are "Major League average or better, and can only get better." (from 2013) http://www.espn.go.com/mlb/player/batvspit...3/cody-anderson Anderson has been pretty terrible so far this year. If Clevinger can give them a quality start and Anderson continues to falter, he'll permanently lose his rotation spot. As it is, he's just up in the bigs under that 24 hour DH clause, so will return to AAA for the 3rd time already this season. Started last Monday against the Reds and was rocked but the Indians' offense rallied back. Has been a BIT embattled in the local press/talk radio. "Get off Cody Anderson's back and give him a break!" Rant of the Week http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2...art_river_index Extra bonus points for Brett Myers mention (in reference to a slew of gopher balls allowed by both Anderson and Myers in 2013) Right now, they've got more starting depth than the Sox. Salazar (he was throwing 96-99 against Boston but got touched up, still best OPP BAA in MLB) Kluber (settled down after giving up 2 early to Boston on FRI, dominant for remainder of game) Carrasco (DL) Tomlin (pitching very effectively this year, luckily we don't have to pitch against him because he's 6/10) Anderson OR Trevor Bauer Clevinger Starting Latos in the first game seems like the right move. Feel more confident in him at least keeping the team within striking distance and doesn't put quite so much pressure on the bullpen in the 2nd game. Obviously critical to win that first game with the White Sox having struggled so much in their last 11. In some ways, we got a reprieve, because the Indians lost 2/3 against both the Twins and Red Sox, but that got cancelled out by going 4-0 against the Reds and igniting their offense with 43 RS to zip up the AL offensive ranks. At the worst, a split and starting Sale on Tuesday seems a good way to, at the very least, hold our ground in the standings and contain the bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2016 -> 11:26 PM) http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=m...layer_id=605182 Mike Clevinger. RHP. Making his second big league start. Gave up 4 ER in 5 IP last time out (debut). Doesn't have dramatic RHB vs. LHP splits. Has the Colby Rasmus/Lincecum/Shark/Syndergaard flowing locks. http://www.letsgotribe.com/2016/5/18/11693...couting-reports Clevinger has a changeup that has become his most effective swing and miss pitch, and is probably the best overall pitch in his arsenal. He also has a slider that is very effective in forcing groundballs. Clevinger's final pitch in his arsenal is a 12-6 curveball, just to throw something very off-speed and get batter's unbalanced, that became his two-strike pitch just prior to the injury. According to an Angels scout, all four of Clevinger's pitches are "Major League average or better, and can only get better." (from 2013) We get a 26th man tomorrow correct? http://www.espn.go.com/mlb/player/batvspit...3/cody-anderson Anderson has been pretty terrible so far this year. If Clevinger can give them a quality start and Anderson continues to falter, he'll permanently lose his rotation spot. As it is, he's just up in the bigs under that 24 hour DH clause, so will return to AAA for the 3rd time already this season. Started last Monday against the Reds and was rocked but the Indians' offense rallied back. Has been a BIT embattled in the local press/talk radio. "Get off Cody Anderson's back and give him a break!" Rant of the Week http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2...art_river_index Extra bonus points for Brett Myers mention (in reference to a slew of gopher balls allowed by both Anderson and Myers in 2013) Right now, they've got more starting depth than the Sox. Salazar (he was throwing 96-99 against Boston but got touched up, still best OPP BAA in MLB) Kluber (settled down after giving up 2 early to Boston on FRI, dominant for remainder of game) Carrasco (DL) Tomlin (pitching very effectively this year, luckily we don't have to pitch against him because he's 6/10) Anderson OR Trevor Bauer Clevinger Starting Latos in the first game seems like the right move. Feel more confident in him at least keeping the team within striking distance and doesn't put quite so much pressure on the bullpen in the 2nd game. Obviously critical to win that first game with the White Sox having struggled so much in their last 11. In some ways, we got a reprieve, because the Indians lost 2/3 against both the Twins and Red Sox, but that got cancelled out by going 4-0 against the Reds and igniting their offense with 43 RS to zip up the AL offensive ranks. At the worst, a split and starting Sale on Tuesday seems a good way to, at the very least, hold our ground in the standings and contain the bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Yeah, you can add one player for the doubleheader. As far as I know, Erik Johnson is obviously ours... http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3506 You can find the relevant section 1/3rd of the way down. Some pretty weird stats. Sox offense is 12th in OBP (that's a first for ages, in the top half), 26th in homers (38, I'm sure we're even lower for homers hit by LHBers), 21st in SLG, 20th in the total bases. 16th in runs scored (7th in the AL). http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung Chris Sale out in front of Arrieta here. Freaking Shark, 5th in the NL, ahead of Bumgarner. Cueto doing well (surprise, surprise), shift from ALCD to NL West works wonders. Can't imagine trading top prospects for the likes of Rich Hill, Erasmo Ramirez or Jeanmar Gomez. Edited May 23, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2016 -> 11:56 PM) Yeah, you can add one player for the doubleheader. As far as I know, Erik Johnson is obviously ours... http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3506 You can find the relevant section 1/3rd of the way down. Some pretty weird stats. Sox offense is 12th in OBP (that's a first for ages, in the top half), 26th in homers (38, I'm sure we're even lower for homers hit by LHBers), 21st in SLG, 20th in the total bases. 16th in runs scored (7th in the AL). How is Porcello that far ahead of Quintana, boggles the mind. http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung Chris Sale out in front of Arrieta here. Freaking Shark, 5th in the NL, ahead of Bumgarner. Cueto doing well (surprise, surprise), shift from ALCD to NL West works wonders. Can't imagine trading top prospects for the likes of Rich Hill, Erasmo Ramirez or Jeanmar Gomez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Boston/ESPN/East Coast media bias, lol? You'd think that Betts, Bradley, Jr., Pedroia, Shaw, Hanley Ramirez, Bogaerts and David Ortiz were a legit threat to the 1927 Murderers' Row Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Time to break out of the slump. As far as slumps go, this one has been manageable. Lost 4 straight series, but no sweeps. Started with that clown-job in Texas. Let's just hope it is just a slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:07 AM) Boston/ESPN/East Coast media bias, lol? You'd think that Betts, Bradley, Jr., Pedroia, Shaw, Hanley Ramirez, Bogaerts and David Ortiz were a legit threat to the 1927 Murderers' Row Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:14 AM) Time to break out of the slump. As far as slumps go, this one has been manageable. Lost 4 straight series, but no sweeps. Started with that clown-job in Texas. Let's just hope it is just a slump. The bats just evaporated for this home stand. We haven't been getting our asses kicked so that's not an issue. We've had chances to win all of these games. Pen will have leaky moments. I hope it's just a slump. If you would've told me before the year we lose 4 of 6 to Houston and KC last week I would've said ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) "How is Porcello that far ahead of Quintana, boggles the mind." I'm sure you didn't notice that response embedded within the paragraph. Edited May 23, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Worried about the gamethread. Really cant afford bad mojo going into a DH against our main rival in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I don't know about anyone else, but I almost have no interest in watching this doubleheader. The thought of watching Latos and Johnson pitch and lose would be up there with getting a root canal. Plus Clevinger's stupid hair. Hope they at least get a split, and Sale wins tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Game 1- the Indians 18,000th franchise game Game 2- the White Sox 18,000th franchise game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 23, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) I don't know about anyone else, but I almost have no interest in watching this doubleheader. The thought of watching Latos and Johnson pitch and lose would be up there with getting a root canal. Plus Clevinger's stupid hair. Hope they at least get a split, and Sale wins tomorrow. This series is the biggest of the season so far for the Sox. If that doesnt interest you, that's on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) This series is the biggest of the season so far for the Sox. If that doesnt interest you, that's on you. Long season. They can't all be gems, and tonight's DH has the high potential to be a chore to watch all the way through. We'll see how game 1 looks at 6pm. But no way I watch game 2 if they lose game 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Tommy Kahnle has been activated as the 26 guy for both games. They need to make another roster move to activate Johnson for the night game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 23, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) Long season. They can't all be gems, and tonight's DH has the high potential to be a chore to watch all the way through. We'll see how game 1 looks at 6pm. But no way I watch game 2 if they lose game 1. How long of a break is there between games? I can't remember the last straight doubleheader I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) How long of a break is there between games? I can't remember the last straight doubleheader I saw. Usually it's 30 minutes between games, but Game 2 won't start before 7:10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 23, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) Usually it's 30 minutes between games, but Game 2 won't start before 7:10. Ya if they lose game 1, I'll watch something else. Erik Johnson is a bum and I don't expect to win that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:31 PM) Tommy Kahnle has been activated as the 26 guy for both games. They need to make another roster move to activate Johnson for the night game though. I kinda hope it's Carlos Sanchez. He needs to play, and really is a waste on the roster right now. Might need Purke tonight anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It'll probably be Sanchez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 23, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) I kinda hope it's Carlos Sanchez. He needs to play, and really is a waste on the roster right now. Might need Purke tonight anyway. They are f***ing up Carlos the same way they f***ed up Semien IMO. Treating him like a 30 year old utility guy instead of a guy that either should in playing every day in AAA or playing every day in the big leagues at one position not all over the diamond. Carlos isn't any great shakes but he's still only 24 and has one great tool -- defense -- that could allow him to turn into a 2 WAR player with a litttle more development. But instead he's not seeing regular AB and is being asked to play a new position at the MLB level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Sanchez is in the lineup. Who's missing here.... https://twitter.com/ChrisKuc/status/734801873744605184 Oh wait, they can make the roster move after Game 1. Still could be Carlos. Edited May 23, 2016 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 All I'm going to say is I need to see more of Tyler. Dude just looks like a ballplayer. Seems like a smart, headsy player, who brings plus D to the field and has a really underrated bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Maybe Kahnle for extra pitcher today (or drop Purke) and Coats tomorrow for Sands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) How long of a break is there between games? I can't remember the last straight doubleheader I saw. There was one last May, and in one June of '13. Those were the last two, I believe. (I was at both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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