fathom Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Fulmer struggling again early. This is getting worrisome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Time to trade him to Oakland for Sonny or Atlanta for Teheran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 http://mlbfarm.com/index.php?team=CWS&date=2016-05-27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 27, 2016 -> 11:45 PM) Time to trade him to Oakland for Sonny or Atlanta for Teheran. Would take more than him. His value has to be plummeting this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Walked 3 in the first already. Time to send him down a level as this is a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 What on earth is wrong with Fulmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Someone mentioned before that Fulmer was not much of a strike thrower in college and that MiLB hitters are not swinging at Fulmer's pitches out of the strike zone the way college kids did. Makes sense. Now it's up to Fulmer to adjust and that might take longer than anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Just walked 4 in an inning. 7 walks in 4 innings. ERA up to 5.87 This farm system is something disgusting this year outside of Anderson. Edited May 28, 2016 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 7 BBs. Yuck. Disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 28, 2016 -> 12:48 AM) 7 BBs. Yuck. Disaster. And the pick right before him, a player that had been potentially linked to the Sox, is already the 6th rated prospect in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) That's because the Red Sox actually invest a ton of money into scouting, both the US and internationally. It would be instructive to know if we would have taken him over Fulmer had he slipped past BOS. Probably not. Were there any rumors of Sox interest? Anderson 0/4 with a K. Knew it wouldn't last forever... Edited May 28, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2016 -> 02:23 AM) That's because the Red Sox actually invest a ton of money into scouting, both the US and internationally. It would be instructive to know if we would have taken him over Fulmer had he slipped past BOS. Probably not. Were there any rumors of Sox interest? Sox were one of the first teams in the top 10 that had interest in him, I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Fulmer likely needs to retreat to Winston Salem and regroup. 34 walks in 46 innings? our farm system has hitter who K all the time and never walk and pitchers not throwing strikes. Not a good game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Matt Cooper great in losing cause for Kanny, not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Until Fulmer starts putting up quality starts where the walk number is low, and k number is somewhat high, that dude is totally irrelevant. What a trainwreck of a season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 lol at sending him down a level. Why, so some younger dudes can swing at his wild bulls***? I'd promote him to the majors before I demoted him but I'm just some random dude who likes baseball and not a GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Fulmer had a bad delivery in college, but given the success of Sale, the Sox seemed to overlook that and we're confident they could either fix it or teach him to pitch around it. I hope this is a result of them taking the time to try to smooth out the mechanics. He was not a universal top 10. I wante the Sox to take the guy the Cubs picked right after, who was the best college hitter in the draft. I don't know if he's done anything or not. Edited May 28, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL27 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2016/...-issues-remain/ Recap posted. Sox Farm goes winless on the night. Cooper leads MilB in K's. Fulmer's command issues still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 What kind of stuff does Cooper have? He's been one of just a handful of pleasant surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Fulmer is a reliever. The delivery is too violent to be able repeat and have command of his pitches. Also the head jerk hasn't improved if anything has become more violent. Sucks the Sox use the 8th pick on a reliever. I believe Sox need to rethink and look at their scouting more carefully. Danish and Fullmer are 99.9% relievers. Majority of the league thought that with Danish and Fulmer was probably split 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 They definitely have to look into doing something with Fulmer, but it's not obvious to me whether demotion is the answer. For one, he seems to be getting worse, which would suggest it isn't just the competition. You also want to know that he's actually locating the pitches rather than taking advantage of worse competition. With that said, I'm a strong proponent of the idea that you can irrevocably harm a player by letting him play too badly for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 QUOTE (Jake @ May 28, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) They definitely have to look into doing something with Fulmer, but it's not obvious to me whether demotion is the answer. For one, he seems to be getting worse, which would suggest it isn't just the competition. You also want to know that he's actually locating the pitches rather than taking advantage of worse competition. With that said, I'm a strong proponent of the idea that you can irrevocably harm a player by letting him play too badly for too long. The last I heard was a SSS podcast with Buddy Bell where he talked about Fumler working on things. Mechanics IIRC. Whatever it is it's not working at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Keith Law has new footage of Carson Fulmer's delivery on his Facebook page. Delivery is even more violent from last year. Can't get it downloaded here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 JA Happ was the answer to the draft pick....him and Benitendi were the hitters the Sox should have been looking at. Rich get richer. Sox just keep floating along in the midst of mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If you want to know more on Fulmer, check out the analysis piece we just posted on Future Sox. Tons of video including recent stuff from BHAM, quotes from Bell & Perdew, everything you want to know. For those asking about Cooper, here is our profile of him. But you can add to that his slider, which we didn't see but he's supposedly using regularly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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