kitekrazy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) Most of these moves of late were second guessed before (bunt, pitching to Hosmer). With that said, even the moves that make sense have back-fired. Team is just mentally weak. Once something bad happens in a game, they fold. That's the scouting for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 30, 2016 -> 08:17 PM) Thing is do we really think this team will do any better with someone else? I dont think so. I agree the team is weak mentally.I think its an organization thing. Proof is against the royals. The royals are the new twins. And BTW ozzie managed those teams It's a good question, but can it hurt? Robin has done nothing in his tenure to deserve benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) It's a good question, but can it hurt? Robin has done nothing in his tenure to deserve benefit of the doubt. Thats a fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:20 PM) It's a good question, but can it hurt? Robin has done nothing in his tenure to deserve benefit of the doubt. You don't want Buddy Bell do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Frazier being asked about the situation takes blame on himself. Really like this guy, leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) It's a good question, but can it hurt? Robin has done nothing in his tenure to deserve benefit of the doubt. Exactly. You have Renteria available to take over. A guy who a respected GM like Theo Epstein hired, and would be managing this Cubs juggernaught if Andrew Freidman was still in Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Well, we're currently 1 1/2 games out of first place and 1 1/2 games out of 4th. (Tigers will have something to say soon about that 4th place position, as will Matz and deGrom against our 4/5 starters). Talk about a bunched up division. But how we got there, nobody would have believed in a million years before this year started that we'd be almost 24-10 and then go 4-15 to follow. 2 games over .500, probably exactly where 80% of the board had the Sox barring major additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) Thats a fair point It's very possible this team might just suck and Robin was a magician in April. Not a lot of teams will contend if their offensive anchor (Abreu) forgets he's supposed to be a run producer. No RBI in 11 games for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:17 PM) Thing is do we really think this team will do any better with someone else? I dont think so. I agree the team is weak mentally.I think its an organization thing. Proof is against the royals. The royals are the new twins. And BTW ozzie managed those teams There's only one way to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 30, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) Exactly. You have Renteria available to take over. A guy who a respected GM like Theo Epstein hired, and would be managing this Cubs juggernaught if Andrew Freidman was still in Tampa. Sorry man I can respect Theo. But i get your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) You don't want Buddy Bell do you? It won't be him. Let him stay in minors and continue to be awful at his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You also have to consider that Robin was basically playing for 1 run in that situation. With the bullpen the way it's been, why the hell would you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) It won't be him. Let him stay in minors and continue to be awful at his job. Good. I would puke having to listen to his bleep every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Are we in the worst era of White Sox history? Impossible for me to say, but it sure feels like it. I don't even remember the last time we made the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) You also have to consider that Robin was basically playing for 1 run in that situation. With the bullpen the way it's been, why the hell would you do that? Last few weeks reminds me of end of 2012. Bad hitting with RISP, strange bunting decisions and poor performances from the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Why did this team have to pretend it was good for the first month? Makes all of these losses that much harder to handle. This lineup and coaching staff are nowhere near being a playoff contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) NY writer tweeted that Ventura said he had Melky bunt with two on and no outs because they were playing for one run. Wow, just wow. What an idiot (Robin) Edited May 30, 2016 by BigHurt3515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 30, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) NY writer tweeted that Ventura said he had Melky bunt with two on and no outs because they were playing for one run. Wow, just wow. What an idiot Didn't know it was bottom of the 9th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) Last few weeks reminds me of end of 2012. Bad hitting with RISP, strange bunting decisions and poor performances from the pen. The bad hitting with RISP, that should turn around. The other stuff, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryzner Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) The bad hitting with RISP, that should turn around. The other stuff, well... Should it, though? We've seen said bat hitting with RISP for years. I don't believe it will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Robin is Goooooood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) The bad hitting with RISP, that should turn around. The other stuff, well... The Mets are worse in baseball but tops in HRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:42 PM) NY writer tweeted that Ventura said he had Melky bunt with two on and no outs because they were playing for one run. Wow, just wow. What an idiot (Robin) The biggest shocker was he didn't look like a #3 hitter trying to bunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 “With the way both guys were pitching, you figured one run was going to do it, so you’re trying to get him in scoring position,” Ventura said of the bunt strategy with Cabrera, who had struck out and hit a soft roller to second in his first two at-bats. “You’re able to get a guy in scoring position and … if you get two, you’re looking good.” SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 30, 2016 -> 04:19 PM) “With the way both guys were pitching, you figured one run was going to do it, so you’re trying to get him in scoring position,” Ventura said of the bunt strategy with Cabrera, who had struck out and hit a soft roller to second in his first two at-bats. “You’re able to get a guy in scoring position and … if you get two, you’re looking good.” SMH OR, Robin, you can let your best hitter swing the bat when your next two hitters are slumping and a minor leaguer the day prior, respectively. Edited May 30, 2016 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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