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5/31/16 Game Thread: White Sox @ Mets


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Reality check for those pushing Todd Frazier for the All Star game.

 

Offense: HR and run production very good. Average: terrible. .219. No all star should hit .219.

 

Defense: Made some nice plays but some have compared to Crede. Frazier let two go under his glove that lead to runs in last couple weeks. Then tonight: two errors leading to two runs.

 

U-G-L-Y

 

But still not as bad as Abreu.

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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 12:50 AM)
Abreu not even an average player right now.

 

I don't get how he forgot how to hit lefties last two years. His bat speed is nothing like what it was in 2014.

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QUOTE (ronkark @ May 31, 2016 -> 06:47 PM)
Reality check for those pushing Todd Frazier for the All Star game.

 

Offense: HR and run production very good. Average: terrible. .219. No all star should hit .219.

 

Defense: Made some nice plays but some have compared to Crede. Frazier let two go under his glove that lead to runs in last couple weeks. Then tonight: two errors leading to two runs.

 

U-G-L-Y

 

But still not as bad as Abreu.

Don't cite average. It's a meaningless stat relative to those that matters. His OPS+ is 121.

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Ventura isnt going to be with the team when they leave NY. The bad decisions are one thing but this team has obviously given up on the season because of one blown lead in Texas a few weeks ago. Cant have that, there's still time to salvage the season but the longer Ventura stays at the helm the more that light dims.

 

Ventura may be #family, but Hahn is Circle of Trust, and they will gladly let Ventura fall on his sword to keep a senior member of the Circle like Hahn insulated.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2016 -> 06:51 PM)
I don't get how he forgot how to hit lefties last two years. His bat speed is nothing like what it was in 2014.

He looks nothing like 2014 in any way the league figured him out.

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QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 31, 2016 -> 06:53 PM)
Ventura isnt going to be with the team when they leave NY. The bad decisions are one thing but this team has obviously given up on the season because of one blown lead in Texas a few weeks ago. Cant have that, there's still time to salvage the season but the longer Ventura stays at the helm the more that light dims.

 

Ventura may be #family, but Hahn is Circle of Trust, and they will gladly let Ventura fall on his sword to keep a senior member of the Circle like Hahn insulated.

What would you like to wager that he's still the manager on Thursday?

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LOL

 

Latos, fluke April and back to reality. Dumpster diving signing at it's finest. What a joke, how many more years of those kinds of moves and expecting to compete? Blow the darn thing up already.

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What would you like to wager that he's still the manager on Thursday?

Nothing of value, this is still the White Sox, but the thing about playing the Mets in NY (and making Harvey look resurgent) is the national attention that draws. Lots of people are wondering how the Sox, riding so high a couple weeks ago, look so bad now. Hahn is the one they really want to protect.

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That Sheehan article is definitely worth reading. Forgot about the bunt by Saladino that happened in the Astros' series (ended up a 6-5 loss eventually) where Rollins and Abreu struck out against Giles.

 

That was another worrying loss which looks even more indicative now from a retrospective glance at what happened went wrong.

 

And then the Youkilis bunt back in September 2012 that pretty much directly led to the Sox blowing the lead.

 

 

4-0

 

Five of his last six starts, Latos has now given up 4 runs or more.

 

He's cooked. How we got those first four starts out of him now seems like a minor miracle.

 

And of course the leadoff walk scored as well. Everything's caving in and it doesn't get easier against deGrom tmrw.

 

 

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2016 -> 06:00 PM)
Latos pitching in the cell during the summer is gonna be comical

 

He's not going to make it at this rate...

 

And there's no sense in sending him out there for too much longer when he's not going to be part of the 2017 team.

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Better yet, Gonzalez vs. DeGrom tomorrow. Should be a doozy!!

 

On the bright side, Cleveland is losing and hopefully that stands. Then, hopefully KC will lose and we will still only be 2 GB. YAY!! Pretty sad. I think this division is weak, too bad we aren't any good.

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QUOTE (flavum @ May 31, 2016 -> 07:02 PM)
I want them to win, but I kinda want to see what happens or doesn't happen if they come home from Detroit under .500.

Nothing will happen JR sees nothing wrong.

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