flavum Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Hope no concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Chris Sale vs AL Central: 28-26, vs Cle 4.07 ERA .254 BAA, vs Det 3.02 ERA .223 BAA, vs KC 2.82 ERA .278 BAA, vs MIN 4.05 ERA .252 BAA. Now Chris Sale is a hell of a pitcher in this league (top 3-5 for sure) but he comes up short in the big games against the division rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) I'm willing to guarantee if that was about any other player on this team, you would have jumped on the train & agreed with me. Your obsession with Sale is getting a bit weird, man. lol No, I would've said the exact same thing. Predicting postseason success/failure for players that've never had the chance is just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 this team needs a priest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Albers....bro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Yeah, forgot Eaton wasn't in CF. Now Albers hurt in slippery conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) Chris Sale vs AL Central: 28-26, vs Cle 4.07 ERA .254 BAA, vs Det 3.02 ERA .223 BAA, vs KC 2.82 ERA .278 BAA, vs MIN 4.05 ERA .252 BAA. Now Chris Sale is a hell of a pitcher in this league (top 3-5 for sure) but he comes up short in the big games against the division rivals. His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central? That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) No, I would've said the exact same thing. Predicting postseason success/failure for players that've never had the chance is just dumb. How would you have said the same exact thing when you just got done saying if the Sox lose today, they aren't a playoff team? Aren't you doing the same exact thing & projection a group's success w/ "just a feeling"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Martinez 5/12 against Albers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Not going to matter since Sale will never pitch in the postseason for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:30 PM) JB Shuck FFS He's just not a CF. That's on Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:34 PM) Yeah, forgot Eaton wasn't in CF. Now Albers hurt in slippery conditions. Albers isnt hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central? That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average. Jose's career ERA is 3.35, but against the Central 2.71 Cle, 4.02 against Det, 4.34 KCR, 3.83 MIN. That totals up to being about 0.5 runs higher than his career average against the Central also. Similar to Sale's career/Division difference. I'm now wondering if part of this isn't "Familiarity with the pitcher" plus "team tries to push the starting pitcher as hard as they can against division opponents" combination, but that's an interesting note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Ok, surprise us with a few runs here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) He's just not a CF. That's on Robin. He's also not a #5 hitter, which is on Robin as well. Good thing that won't come to bite is in the ass this inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:35 PM) His career ERA is 2.86 overall and the numbers there put it at around 3.55 ish for the AL Central? That's not top 5 in baseball but its not what I'd call "coming up short" against the Central, that's still above average. And if you look season by season against the Twins and Indians where he has the worst numbers it isn't like there is a trend. He sucked against the Twins last year but he has been good against them aside from that. He sucked against the Indians in 2013 but dominated them in 2012, 2014 and 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:36 PM) How would you have said the same exact thing when you just got done saying if the Sox lose today, they aren't a playoff team? Aren't you doing the same exact thing & projection a group's success w/ "just a feeling"? I never said the Sox would fail as a team if they got to the playoffs, I simply that that this isn't a playoff caliber team if they couldn't win this game. It's 2 separate ideas, though I can see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Sands needs to rip a double right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 If you have to pinch hit for your 5th hitter, he shouldn't be batting 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Holy s***. DFA for the love of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 05:41 PM) Sands needs to rip a double right here! Sorta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Sale Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 fitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 #ShieldsForDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 What a day it would be to wake up and find out the entire coaching staff and front office was terminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Would like to say that's the death knell for Sands but maybe not with Shuck and a possibly injured Coats behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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