Bananarchy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) The money they saved should go towards Panarin.... yes I know he has 1 yr left on his rookie deal. Shaw is a waste of space.. will be Bickell again. Agreed. Get this kid signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) The money they saved should go towards Panarin.... yes I know he has 1 yr left on his rookie deal. Shaw is a waste of space.. will be Bickell again. Shaw scored only a couple less points than TT FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 03:07 PM) Shaw scored only a couple less points than TT FYI I'm fine with TT being gone. Liked the kid looked very talented. Don't care for Shaw at all. Stupid penalties all the time. Hopefully they use some of this money save to resign Panarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) Teuvo would have to double his points to even reach Kane's first season total. I dont see him as a big time scorer and he is a defensive liability. I cant help but think Versteeg when I see him. I am talking ceiling. Realistically Versteeg might be a good comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus 22m22 minutes ago Source says #Blackhawks fully expect to re-sign Andrew Shaw with Bickell's contract off the books. Still waiting on cap number, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus 22m22 minutes ago Source says #Blackhawks fully expect to re-sign Andrew Shaw with Bickell's contract off the books. Still waiting on cap number, though. Hopefully this doesn't cause problems with Panarin in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Can't believe they dealt Tuevo. Kid was playing on his off wing, played with inept offensive talent in the bottom 6 and still put up 35+ points as a 21 year old. Leddy, Saad, TT. All young talent dealt away with an aging core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) Can't believe they dealt Tuevo. Kid was playing on his off wing, played with inept offensive talent in the bottom 6 and still put up 35+ points as a 21 year old. Leddy, Saad, TT. All young talent dealt away with an aging core. Is 35 points good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) Is 35 points good? It is if you read his explanation for why it's not bad. Consider Andrew Shaw. He's never had 40 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 They traded Teuvo just to resign Shaw. f*** me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 06:25 PM) It is if you read his explanation for why it's not bad. Consider Andrew Shaw. He's never had 40 points. So he's at the Andrew Shaw level with literally no defensive ability. I don't consider that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 08:24 PM) So he's at the Andrew Shaw level with literally no defensive ability. I don't consider that good. Teuvo has no defense ability? That's where you are wrong. He was pretty good on the PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) So yeah. I called how bad this extension for Bickell was when it happened. Now it cost us Tuevo. This is very similar to when we dumped Gilmour and had to toss in Dumont to get the Sabres to take him. Edited June 16, 2016 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus 22m22 minutes ago Source says #Blackhawks fully expect to re-sign Andrew Shaw with Bickell's contract off the books. Still waiting on cap number, though. f*** Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'll miss you Teuvo, you sweet, sweet boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Teuvo has no defense ability? That's where you are wrong. He was pretty good on the PK. I don't think I'm wrong at all actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thankfully, Bowman has blessed us with the Seabrook deal, which turns into the next "Bickell contract" in couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) Thankfully, Bowman has blessed us with the Seabrook deal, which turns into the next "Bickell contract" in couple of seasons. I dont much like Seabrook but at least he plays heavy minutes. Bickell couldnt even stay on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 This cap situation sucks. Stupid canadian dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 07:55 AM) I don't think I'm wrong at all actually. You are very wrong but you are also very stubborn in regards to talking hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 08:36 AM) You are very wrong but you are also very stubborn in regards to talking hockey. Cool, show me that I am wrong then, show me his defensive prowess, I am always willing to admit I am wrong if thats the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 08:39 AM) Cool, show me that I am wrong then, show me his defensive prowess, I am always willing to admit I am wrong if thats the case. You were already wrong calling him an Andrew Shaw level even thought he's 3-4 years younger and had way worse linemates in the bottom 6. (FYI, He was our 5th highest scoring forward with Desjardins and Danault as his most common linemates and being 8th among forwards for PP TOI/GP and 7th for ES TOI/GP.. 7th and 6th if you remove Ladd). He had decent quality of competition (only Hossa and Toews had tougher), got just over 40% offensive zone starts and was a positive possession player. Q trusted him in all situations and it shows in the stats and the eye test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) You were already wrong calling him an Andrew Shaw level even thought he's 3-4 years younger and had way worse linemates in the bottom 6. (FYI, He was our 5th highest scoring forward with Desjardins and Danault as his most common linemates and being 8th among forwards for PP TOI/GP and 7th for ES TOI/GP.. 7th and 6th if you remove Ladd). He had decent quality of competition (only Hossa and Toews had tougher), got just over 40% offensive zone starts and was a positive possession player. Q trusted him in all situations and it shows in the stats and the eye test. To be fair, I said he was Andrew Shaw level on point production. He certainly didnt benefit from being on the bottom lines but part of that was that he had no real position that made him needed on the top. I Do love this site: https://puckalytics.com/players/#!/?pid=1938 Edited June 16, 2016 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Rockford IceHogs 19 mins · The #IceHogs and Chicago Blackhawks announced a five-year affiliation extension through the 2021-22 season. DETAILS: http://bit.ly/1UBnwfM [http://bit.ly/1ubnwfm&h=paqhj9iwcaqhpr4o0hbipc5b9db9z7tkols-zyukp7alk3a&enc=aznuf7nqyghjxzuirolconq56ajuastantqoclowihdvyggtoo3ozfdglslvw5j39vnhejyd_4v7jx9nffrtaz9olwxh _gunbiikumcumqik-gk8ndqmikec8xft7xzgu_r3lqnpgzcn8dlcb7-ui8nme_7rhmnccxvg0hnjeezoj9aavkxxjzxcj7nn13529eo&s=1_green] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Comcast SportsNet @CSNChicago 46m46 minutes ago Report: #Blackhawks will carry a hefty salary cap overage into 2016-17 -- http://cmcst.sn/UC4E (@CRoumeliotis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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